XxAllStarxX23

Can some explain how should i route my tubes or whatever that's called but so far right now i only want to cool the cpu i dnt have money for the gpu. so this is what im planning on getting :



Swiftech Apogee GTZ Extreme Performance CPU water block
Swiftech MCR220-QP Liquid Cooler Radiator
Swiftech MCP655 12 VDC Pump
And i don't know if i need a reservoir if i do this would be nice right?
Swiftech MCRES-MICRO™ Rev. 2 Reservoir or if you guys recommend one.

Is that a good water cooling. ? am i messing something? tell or if you guys recommend something else tell me thanks!

spiderm0nkey

I don't know a lot about any of those parts, but the way I would be routing the tubes (depending on your case) would be reservoir to pump to radiator to cpu block to reservoir. Take a picture of the inside of your pc and post it here so we can help you decide on a good loop

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What case do you have?

XxAllStarxX23

The Case I have or im going to get is the Antec 1200

Spawn-Inc

there is alot of good info in this thread, please spend a few WEEKS, at least 1, and read through and try to understand as much as you can.

i don't want to sound rude or anything then buying parts right away may not be such a good idea. it's easy to have problems that are costly.

if your the hands on type, they grab the parts after checking you have all the parts needed.

here is another guide.

http://gilgameshreviews.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=75:ho kiealumnus&catid=40verclocking-and-cooling&Itemid=86

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spiderm0nkey

I agree with Spawn-Inc. You really can't make a decision straight away on the gear until you've done a substantial amount of research. Try to find reviews with comparisons on similar products. Also ask plenty of questions. Find out the negatives and positives of each part. This is an expensive path to go down and I would hate for you to spend a lot of money on parts only to find that they're not doing what you'd expected them to do.

Again like Spawn-Inc said, read as much as you can. Don't rush into it because there is a high chance that in doing so, you could make some expensive mistakes. We're not trying to be downers, rather we are trying to be realistic because we understand how research pays off.

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XxAllStarxX23

ohh alright ill read.

spiderm0nkey

Just one note, you'll be hard pressed to fit that Reservoir into the case if you use it where it was designed to fit and you have your radiator placed externally. I don't know what the distance is between the built-in tube holes and the expansion slots, but there is a chance that the tank will get in the way of the tubing, since it is design to screw into the expansion slot screw holes.

You could mount it else where but it would need to be done with zip ties or something like that.

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XxAllStarxX23

Yeah im going to send the rad and the case to TJ around march so he can mount it on like he did it's nice. BUT OMG theres so much water cooling things that i have to do in order to make it work. im sorry but in the guide i only got like half of it and the rest i didnt understand for nothing. i need help and by the time i get everything ready for the water cooling and i still don't get it im going to have to send it to someone so they can do it.Because i need HELP! on this BAD!

spiderm0nkey

It does seem like a LOT of work when you first consider water cooling and it can be freaky. The best thing is to have someone around you who does know what they're doing so they can aid you in the setup process. If that isn't possible, start on it yourself and make sure you have another computer to use so that you can ask questions on here Be confident in yourself though. You can do it It's definitely a challenge but not a far-fetched one. We've all learned how to do it so you can too!

If it helps at all, break everything up into two categories. Components and tubing.

Under components you'll have the radiator, pump, tank and cpu block.

Under Tubing you'll have tubes (duh), hose clamps and elbow joints if you plan on having a few 90 degree angles going on with the tubing.

Organise your components first.
1. Have a go at putting the cpu block on before the time comes to actually set it all up so you have an idea on how to do it in advance.

2. Next decide on where to place the other components. Like I said earlier, try to keep the pump underneath the tank. You don't need to do this, you could have a nice, gently curved tube coming down from the tank on the left of the case to the pump on the other side of the case if necessary. As long as the water has an easy route to travel (no sharp bends or having to travel upwards).

3. Figure out where to put the radiator. In your situation either up the top of the case or mounted on the outside will be the best solution.

Once you've got all that sorted, then think about the tubing side of things. With the setup you have planned out, how much tubing will it take to reach each component? How many hose clamps do I need? Will I need any elbow joints? Once you have planned this out you may find that you need to make some adjustments to the positioning of your components.

Also, since it is your first time doing it, put the loop together outside of the case to test it out first. Don't put the waterblock on the cpu, just have it all sitting on a table and do a leak test overnight. In the morning if there are no leaks then you can start putting it into the case.

1. Before cutting tubes, cut them longer than necessary and then shorten them to the right length. Remember to keep the tubes loose and free and not too sharp/tight, remembering that sharp bends can cause tube kinking.

2. Next start fitting the tubes onto the components. If you wanted to be orderly, you could start with the tank and follow the water's route by doing the pump next, then the radiator and then the cpu and back to the pump.

3. Before you have joined two components together with the tubes ie. tank and pump, slide 2 hose clamps on and then push the tube onto the barb on the second component. You wouldn't believe how many times I've forgotten to do that and had to start again!

NOTE: If you're having trouble getting the tubes onto the barbs, grab a hairdryer and point it at the tube for about 20-30 seconds. The tube will soften and make it much easier to slide on.

4. Tighten all of the hose clamps with a screwdriver and then go over them with a socket thingy to tighten them even further.

5. Buy a bottle of distilled water just to be safe (Water in it's purest form has an incredibly low rate of conductivity. Tap water contains contaminants and when it comes into contact with metal, these contaminants will react with it and can conduct electricity etc. Using a bottle of pure water in your loop is safest for your hardware. It won't eliminate corrosion if you have a leak and you don't ever clean the water off, but at least it won't conduct You can use tap water but just be extra careful of leaks.) and fill the tank with that.

6. Switch the pump on but be ready to flick the switch again as the water level will drop rapidly and you don't want to suck air through the loop!

7. Top up the tank and switch the pump on again. Switch it off before it reaches the bottom and repeat these steps until the water level doesn't drop anymore.

8. Add in the coolant liquid. UV reactant stuff is excellent and I would recommend it as well as having a UV light. This is very helpful for checking leaks as the UV light will show up any water that has managed to escape.

At this point there will be air bubbles in the tubes. Squeeze the tubes to try and move the air bubbles. You may find clusters of little bubbles that might not want to move from where they are. Don't worry too much about them as they will sort themselves out in the next day or so.

Now leave it running overnight and check for any leaks. If you have got leaks, tighten up the clamps that the water is leaking from.

The reason why I have recommended you put your loop together outside of the case is so that you can better understand the way it all works before you put it into the case. It gives you a tad more experience with setting it up and it will also boost your confidence for when it comes time to install it properly. The same steps apply for installation into the case. You just need to be a little more careful with leaks as now it is going to be leaking onto your hardware. However, don't panic if it does! Clean it up as quick as you can. The easiest way to do it is to get some toilet paper and soak it up, then dry the area with the toilet paper. If you leave the liquid to sit on your hardware, over time the parts will corrode. If it leaks on your video card, you will get visual artifacts such as lag or boxes of colour on the screen. Anything visually out of the ordinary could be caused by a leak. If it leaks on your soundcard, your audio will glitch. You may hear loud screeches or funny blips. I have had both happen before in a system I thought was leak proof. After cleaning up the liquid, the problems went away and I tightened the clamps.

I hope this is an in-depth enough guide for you to have a little more confidence in putting the loop together. If you do have any more questions, feel free to ask. I think the best thing you can do for yourself now is to familiarise yourself with the process. Re-read this post a few times until you understand the steps involved and think you could do them without having to refer back to this.

Sorry it's so long too :P Just trying to help you out.

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