Dallus

I've done a lot of research on watercooling and think that should be my next venture. I just bought a NZXT Tempest case and love to so far. I just need to get my cables cleaned up a bit. I didn't think I needed PSU extensions, so I'm waiting for those.

Anyways, I have a few components I'd like to get in the loop and drew up a couple during class today. I want to go with the Swiftech Ultima+ kit because of the blocks. I want to cool my CPU, NB, and GPU. The Blackops MB's NB cooler can be removed and I would replace it with the kit block.

The first picture is probably ok in terns of pressure/head/whatnot. But I think I'd prefer the 2nd radiator outside the case to cool the water before its next stop in the loop.

I am a n00b in all this, but I am growing increasingly fond of the watercooling idea. I think watercooling setups look awesome, and I'm tired of my Zalman resonating in my cases.

Thanks for any help with this. I do want to overclock, and have a mild one on my Zalman right now. I believe the specs are in my sig.

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kevingreenbmx

I would highly recomend not using a kit and building it up from parts yourself. you will get a much nicer loop that is more effective and safer that way.

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also, you always want the loop to go res> pump> rad> cpu> nb/vid cards> res

that way the water is coolest right before the most important part, the cpu.

most people advise against cooling the NB and SB also. it is unecessary heat in your loop.

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Spawn-Inc

go either way its a great pump and will handle the extra tubing for external mountings.


make sure for best results that you have ambient air going into your rads vs. case air (like in the first pic) going through the rad.


you don't have to have the rads before the blocks, it will be a very slight bit cooler (.5C) so it's not a big deal.

don't worry about loop order just route it for the least amount of tight bends and length of tubing.

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kevingreenbmx

It is better for the pump if it pushes water. that is how they are designed to work. much better to have the pump right after the res than at the end of the loop.

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DUNC4N

This is one of the few kits thats decent, yes you can build better, but safer? How?

It depends on the chipset, in this case x48 does run hot so it wouldn't hurt.


After more thought, build your loop piece by piece, and get a bigger/better radiator from the start imho.

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Spawn-Inc

i didn't say it but yes the res goes before the pump.

pumps push and pull... it makes no difference where it is in the loop order. you can have the res else where but it's best for it to be before the pump so it won't run dry while filling.

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ira-k

I always run my loop res-pump-rad-CPU-anything else. I generally drop a .5-1C across my rad with a single pump,measured with in-line temp probes, dual pumps are more. A C is a C, take them anywhere you can get them....They all add up

Now if you would have to run a lot of extra tubing to get it in that order I'd just run it however, the extra tubing would defeat the purpose of it. Just keep your res before the pump and a little higher if you can. That keeps the pump supplied with a little gravity fed water, not as much a chance of dry starts that way when your starting it, it has that colum of water and res over it.

If you keep the res at the highest point in your loop and turn your pump on and off a few times while your bleeding it will help it bleed a little faster. If your res is lower then other WC'ing components you can only take the cap off while the pump is on or water will come out of the plug hole.

Some say they get a little better temp's with the CPU right after the pump, I've always gotten a little better temp's with it right after the rad. Just play around with it some after you get used to it and see what works best for you, that's the only way you'll ever know for sure. I've never had any 2 loops behave exactly the same, even if they had comparable parts in them.

Some things you may like to read, there's a lot of good info in the stickies also;

..FAQ: Planning and Installing Your Liquid Cooling System

..Water Cooling - In English

..Stores to buy watercooling gear

..Shane's Video Tutorials Thread

If all the basic set up and bleeding doesn't help your temp's this is a great little guide that may help you...High Temps? A guide to improvement - 5 tests

Here's my cleaning and set-up PDF, it has a lot of basic stuff in it to.

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carrion

Between the 2 loops in your draft.. I definitely recommend the second.
As said from other mates .. its much better to have reservoir at the top of the setup and the pump right next to it.
I have heard too that some claim for better temps with cpu block right after the pump, but its hard to believe for some reasons. When the fluid pass through the pump, absorbs some heat from it. Thats something normal cause pump depends on it to cool down its own temps from spining. On the other hand when the liquid goes to radiator after pump, cool down and ready to absorb as much heat from cpu.
So how comes to get better temps with a lesser warm fluid rather than a chilled one? :P

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Dallus

Awesome info ira-k! I've just been looking around at the thought of watercooling and really want to get it going. Will the pump handle the 2nd loop with the 2 rads?