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Old 01-09-06   #1 (permalink)
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Default Upgrading Bigwater SE

My temps are around 50 degrees at load and I was wondering what the best upgrade would be to improve this. I was thinking the swiftech storm block and MCP655 pump.

I would also need some more coolant as I have run out of the bigwater stuff.

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Well if it is 3/8" ID tubing(don't member), then I think your best benefit first would be a pump, to get some higher flow. Next, if your rad gets warm now, or even the water, then next is the rad with either a heatercore or a BIX I or II. After that a new block, but by that time you have a whole new system
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Yes the swiftech pump if very poweful, the block will help, but I suggest getting the pump and the 77' heatercore. Pump is $78 and the heatercore is $22, making that a $100 upgrade. Use distilled water and anti-freeze as your coolant. The swiftech apogee is cheaper and it acually performs a little better.

http://www.overclock.net/water-cooli...-shipping.html

That is the apogee for $40 shipped.

That would make a total of $140 for a awesome upgrade.
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The tubing is 6.4mm, I have no clue on that in inches.

Water doesnt feel that warm so I was going to get this to give me a good indicator of the actual temp.

http://froogle.google.co.uk/froogle?...&hl=en&show=dd

I'll probably go for a new pump, but I was thinking of the block as well so I dont have to drain the system many times.
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For the biggest performance increase I would go with a 77 Bonneville Heatercore(that should definitely bump up performance) and an Apogee.

That would probably make the biggest difference.

Im not remembering properly right now but i believe the tubing on the BigWater is less than 1/2 id. Ramping the tubing up to 1/2 would provide a performance increase aswell with little investment(A few barbs for the existing parts,and some tubing.)

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Yeh the tubing size I have found is 1/4” or 6.4mm, Could I get something to convert this? Also I cannot find the swiftech pump instock anywhere in the UK. Could someone give me a link to another pump that is comparable please.

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don't even bother upgrading the kit - take out the kit and purchase a DIY setup which will kick the crap out of the bigwater


tell us your budget on this and we'll help you put together a nice DIY WC system that will beat the bigwater



edit: if you got the cash, check out this list i put together -




CPU Block: Swiftech Apogee - $49.95 - http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...oducts_id=3825

GPU Block: Danger Den Maze 4 w/ Acetal Top - $44.95 - http://www.dangerdenstore.com/produc...&cat=47&page=1

Radiator: Black Ice Extreme II - $57.99 - http://www.dangerdenstore.com/produc...&cat=72&page=1

Pump: Danger Den DD-D5 - $74.95 - http://www.dangerdenstore.com/produc...5&cat=0&page=1

Reservoir/Fillport: Danger Den Fillport + 1/2" T-Fitting - $11.95 + $1.00 - http://www.dangerdenstore.com/produc...6&cat=6&page=1 (T-fitting usually available at local hardware store)

Tubing: 10feet MasterKleer 1/2" ID x 3/4" OD 1/8” wall Vinyl Tubing - $0.61/foot - P/N 5233K68 at www.mcmaster.com

Hose Clamps: Wide Band Stainless Steel worm drive hose clamps 7/8” Max. ID - $1.00/ea - (usually available at local hardware store)

Coolant/Liquids: 1 gallon Distilled water (grocery store) + 10% antifreeze (autoparts store) + UV water dye of choice (optional - www.frozencpu.com has the best stuff I’ve seen yet)


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don't even bother upgrading the kit - take out the kit and purchase a DIY setup which will kick the crap out of the bigwater


tell us your budget on this and we'll help you put together a nice DIY WC system that will rape the bigwater
£100 to £150 at most. i'd like to keep the drive bay res and rad from the bigwater as these both seem fairly decent, if that possible.
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£100 to £150 at most. i'd like to keep the drive bay res and rad from the bigwater as these both seem fairly decent, if that possible.

a bigger rad. would help alot, especially if you're coolign both the CPU and GPU, and the res is aluminum, so mixing it in with copper waterblocks is asking for trouble

and the bayres uses really small ID tubing, so thats basically just restricting the new loop from reaching its full potential

your best bet would be to sell the entire kit as one for like $75 and then buy a whole new kit as i stated above
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a bigger rad. would help alot, especially if you're coolign both the CPU and GPU, and the res is aluminum, so mixing it in with copper waterblocks is asking for trouble

and the bayres uses really small ID tubing, so thats basically just restricting the new loop from reaching its full potential

your best bet would be to sell the entire kit as one for like $75 and then buy a whole new kit as i stated above
Okay then, what should I get then. Also I would preferrably like a rad I can fit inside my case, Which can fit a single 120mm in the back.

Edit: just read you list ill have a look at if I can get those parts in UK.
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