Pagefileng not disabled? - Overclock.net

Unknownm · 08-26-07

I disabled it along time ago with 1GB kit. Now i got 3Gb and I don't really need it anymore but DX Diganostic tool says "Page file: 398MB used, 2513MB Available"

jph1589 · 08-26-07

I believe that is because the actual file that is allocated as the pagefil is still there even when you tell the OS not to use it. There is a complicated way of booting up dos and deleting the original file that was allocated. I'm not sure it is worth it though.

Nonchalant · 08-27-07

Windows will ALWAYS create a pagefile of sorts no matter what you select in advanced properties. In actual fact, a Windows OS cant run w/o one...

Murlocke · 08-27-07

Even if you have 4GB of ram you should never disable a page file. Should leave it at around 1024MB minimum.

There are alot of programs, including windows, that are programmed to use part of the page file instead of ram.

Unknownm · 08-27-07

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Originally Posted by Murlocke

Even if you have 4GB of ram you should never disable a page file. Should leave it at around 1024MB minimum.

There are alot of programs, including windows, that are programmed to use part of the page file instead of ram.

yep and all my programs just work fine without it

Muhahahaha · 08-27-07

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Originally Posted by Unknownm

I disabled it along time ago with 1GB kit. Now i got 3Gb and I don't really need it anymore but DX Diganostic tool says "Page file: 398MB used, 2513MB Available"

Open up the defragmenter. If there are any green areas, then that's your page file, so it's still there. Otherwise, I think that's just your 3GB of memory.

Unknownm · 08-27-07

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Originally Posted by Muhahahaha

Open up the defragmenter. If there are any green areas, then that's your page file, so it's still there. Otherwise, I think that's just your 3GB of memory.

yea I got no green

Murlocke · 08-27-07

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Originally Posted by Unknownm

yep and all my programs just work fine without it

If a program is coded to use the page file, then it will run much slower if the page file is disabled.. it will still run, it will just run slower.

You should NOT disable the page file in windows.

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Myth - "Disabling the Paging File improves performance."

Reality - "You gain no performance improvement by turning off the Paging File. When certain applications start, they allocate a huge amount of memory (hundreds of megabytes typically set aside in virtual memory) even though they might not use it. If no paging file (pagefile.sys) is present, a memory-hogging application can quickly use a large chunk of RAM. Even worse, just a few such programs can bring a machine loaded with memory to a halt. Some applications (e.g., Adobe Photoshop) will display warnings on startup if no paging file is present."

"In modern operating systems, including Windows, application programs and many system processes always reference memory using virtual memory addresses which are automatically translated to real (RAM) addresses by the hardware. Only core parts of the operating system kernel bypass this address translation and use real memory addresses directly. All processes (e.g. application executables) running under 32 bit Windows gets virtual memory addresses (a Virtual Address Space) going from 0 to 4,294,967,295 (2*32-1 = 4 GB), no matter how much RAM is actually installed on the computer. In the default Windows OS configuration, 2 GB of this virtual address space are designated for each process' private use and the other 2 GB are shared between all processes and the operating system. RAM is a limited resource, whereas virtual memory is, for most practical purposes, unlimited. There can be a large number of processes each with its own 2 GB of private virtual address space. When the memory in use by all the existing processes exceeds the amount of RAM available, the operating system will move pages (4 KB pieces) of one or more virtual address spaces to the computer's hard disk, thus freeing that RAM frame for other uses. In Windows systems, these "paged out" pages are stored in one or more files called pagefile.sys in the root of a partition. Virtual Memory is always in use, even when the memory required by all running processes does not exceed the amount of RAM installed on the system."

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/SupportCD/XPMyths.html

If you did a quick google, you would see that it is bad. If you don't wanna believe me thats your problem, have fun with the problems it will cause in the long run.

Even with 4GB of memory you should not disable the page file. Both Windows XP and Vista are coded to have a page file and disabling it can have negative effects.

**Chozart** · 08-27-07

Leave the pagefile on indeed. Photoshop for example needs one.

And I do agree that this is the actual physical memory the DXDIAG tool displays. It's probably a bit confused since it doesn't find a pagefile.

Unknownm · 08-27-07

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Originally Posted by Murlocke

If a program is coded to use the page file, then it will run much slower if the page file is disabled.. it will still run, it will just run slower.

You should NOT disable the page file in windows.

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/SupportCD/XPMyths.html

If you did a quick google, you would see that it is bad. If you don't wanna believe me thats your problem, have fun with the problems it will cause in the long run.

Even with 4GB of memory you should not disable the page file. Both Windows XP and Vista are coded to have a page file and disabling it can have negative effects.

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/...1679901,00.asp

http://www.overclock.net/operating-s...ging-file.html

I already found 1 link and 1 link from OCN saying it's alright to disable pagefileing.

maybe it does slow down apps but all the programs I use are not slow with it disabled

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