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post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old 03-15-2017, 12:13 PM - Thread Starter
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I currently have an AMD A10-7850k in my system and this is severely bottle-necking my Radeon R9 290x. I always knew that this was a problem but it only really started to bother me when i bought Battlefield 1. I can occasionally achieve a high of 50 if i am in an area with low action, but most of the gameplay is 30 fps or lower.

I have tried many overclocking combinations and the highest i can achieve is 4500mhz, which i hear is pretty good. But people out there are able to reach 4800mhz + i dont really know if this the good solution. So at the minute i have settled down with the OC Genie in gear 2 switch.


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Try overclocking with FSB greatly improves single threaded performance on bulldozer architecture CPUs. Also if you have plenty of time play with ram timings and speed this will reduces latencies overall, some other suggestions would be to use dx12, disable any sort of anti-aliasing, reduce post process quality.

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dx12 does not seem to work on most games, it works on the new tomb raider and boosts that drastically, yet when i try with Battlefield 1 it crashes on startup.

And i am not sure what you mean by 'overclocking with FSB'. I would be grateful if you guided me as that sounds great!
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Hi!

You might want to read this thread by people with the same hardware you have. https://www.overclock.net/t/1460028/amd-kaveri-a10-7850k-overclock-guide

Your cpu can use much faster memory that you are using. 2000 mhz ram runs just fine in it. The main thing to watch out for is overvolting it. Methinks 1.485 v is the max safe long term voltage.

The single thread performance at 4.5 ghz should be fine. It is the multi thread apps that are causing your problems as it is only a quad. Do whatever it takes to reduce the cpu load.

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4500ghz is probably the max with your motherboard. I don't believe very many folks cam get a Kaveri chip to 4800, and if they did, it would have required top components like an Asus Crossblade Ranger motherboard, custom water cooling, a great psu, and extra fans on the vrms. All of that would put Build cost in the range of an Intel i5 or i7 system.

Fm2 builds have similar problems as the FX and builds. You have a great cooler, passable motherboard, and the Kaveri chip is ok, too. I run 2133 or 2400 ram on my fm2 builds without issues. Check msi's website for your boards "qualified vendor list" for ram compatibility.

There is a thread on here about custom bios for some fm2 motherboards that helps with throttling of the cpu caused by the graphics side of the chip. You can read ithttps://www.overclock.net/t/1588994/disabling-igpu-usage-induced-cpu-throttling-geapm-steamroller-apus/90#post_25853603
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4500ghz is probably the max with your motherboard. I don't believe very many folks cam get a Kaveri chip to 4800, and if they did, it would have required top components like an Asus Crossblade Ranger motherboard, custom water cooling, a great psu, and extra fans on the vrms. All of that would put Build cost in the range of an Intel i5 or i7 system.

Fm2 builds have similar problems as the FX and builds. You have a great cooler, passable motherboard, and the Kaveri chip is ok, too. I run 2133 or 2400 ram on my fm2 builds without issues. Check msi's website for your boards "qualified vendor list" for ram compatibility.

There is a thread on here about custom bios for some fm2 motherboards that helps with throttling of the cpu caused by the graphics side of the chip. You can read ithttps://www.overclock.net/t/1588994/disabling-igpu-usage-induced-cpu-throttling-geapm-steamroller-apus/90#post_25853603


In my 4 years here I have never heard of anyone running a FM2+ chip at 4.8 GHz.

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Try overclocking with FSB greatly improves single threaded performance on bulldozer architecture CPUs. Also if you have plenty of time play with ram timings and speed this will reduces latencies overall, some other suggestions would be to use dx12, disable any sort of anti-aliasing, reduce post process quality.


You can't overclock via the reference clock because you will not be able to run in AHCI mode. FM2 is not like AM3.

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The max I'd heard was 4700 for kaveri/godavari. I think the series before that had slightly higher clock potential. I have gotten my 7870k to 4.6 stable on the gigabyte mITX a88x board. I was using a h100i, noctua fans, and a fan on the vrms like for Vishera boards. I couldn't get my Athlon 880K to do the same, maxed out at 4.5 for my ameture abilities.
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The single thread performance at 4.5 ghz should be fine. It is the multi thread apps that are causing your problems as it is only a quad.
This is the biggest issue.

I chose a steamroller build over FX back in 2014 because I though the extra IPC would make more of a difference. Then I observed friends with stock 8350's getting smoother gaming experiences than mine overclocked to 4.4ghz.

I think it was adoredtv that showed even poorly running games like fallout 4 are smoother FPS on ryzen than on kaby i7's, even when ryzen looks worse in graphs. More cores/threads to spread the load across makes a real noticeable difference. I regretted going kaveri quad over FX-8 pretty early but didn't have the time/money to start over. Didn't make the same mistake this time round. smile.gif

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The max I'd heard was 4700 for kaveri/godavari. I think the series before that had slightly higher clock potential. I have gotten my 7870k to 4.6 stable on the gigabyte mITX a88x board. I was using a h100i, noctua fans, and a fan on the vrms like for Vishera boards. I couldn't get my Athlon 880K to do the same, maxed out at 4.5 for my ameture abilities.


I have a 7870K and it runs at 4.5 GHz with 1.48 vcore medium llc. I also have an 880K which I haven't played with much but I really don't think it is as good of a chip as the 7870K from the little bit I fiddled around with it.

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