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post #3631 of 3653 (permalink) Old 05-15-2019, 12:38 PM
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@Hale59 , what voltage did you give your RAM? I would love to run my B dies at close to that, or at least 3600. But I am waiting for X570 before I try again. I hope next gen Ryzen gives us 4Ghz ram speeds, lol.
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@Hale59 , what voltage did you give your RAM? I would love to run my B dies at close to that, or at least 3600. But I am waiting for X570 before I try again. I hope next gen Ryzen gives us 4Ghz ram speeds, lol.
I can't remember. This is not recent.
The voltages were worked out according to the DRAM's calculator.

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I can't remember. This is not recent.
The voltages were worked out according to the DRAM's calculator.
Ok thanks. Was just curious anyway.
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Ok thanks. Was just curious anyway.
I'm pretty curious too.

Also @1usmus has let us know that X570/Ryzen 3000 will be able to do up to 5000MTs! This would be a crazy improvement!

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I'm pretty curious too.

Also @1usmus has let us know that X570/Ryzen 3000 will be able to do up to 5000MTs! This would be a crazy improvement!
My situation is very unique actually. I wasn't planning on adopting Ryzen until at least the 3000 series. However, one day in June 2018, the mail man delivered me a ASRock AB350 Pro4 and some Samsung B-dies from an uncle of mine (Don't be surprised, my uncle always sends me stuff to sell on ebay). The board needed some repair and being a Electronics Tech by trade he figured I could repair it and sell it on eBay, so that was my plan all along. However, once it was repaired (PCIe slot was shattered and PCIe pins had melted, and no back plate was to be found) I couldn't find the will to put it up on eBay (lol), so I bought a 2600X for it and was surprised that it just worked like new. I wasn't expecting it to be as solid as it has been so I sold my Rampage III Extreme and Xeon to another over clocker here and been using this setup ever since late last summer.

The problem I now face is the fact that I don't do mediocre or mid range boards myself, I do boards in the enthusiast class (mainly because I want longevity with very high quality components), not only that I figure the X570 and Ryzen 3000 will be the series that the industry finally starts taking AMD seriously. Since I was waiting for gen three all along I can't get myself to buy a X370 or X470 board knowing I will be getting the Ryzen 9 3000 series soon (when I already have a working AM4 board) as that was never the plan. So this repaired B350 board has been holding me over until X570 appears on the scene. I want a truly good board for Ryzen 3000, something that will last as long as my Asus Rampage did for me (which went through 3 CPU upgrades), maybe a Taichi Ultimate level or another anus, maybe the next Crosshair X570. I will probably use this 2600X for a few weeks or maybe even a Month as I watch closely everyone else jump on the 3000, haha. Anyway, once I am satisfied that the 7nm 3000 series is the one to jump on, I will then retire this 2600X into Home Server duties and then get the Ryzen 9 16 core chip, assuming its a real product. I just hope this B-die that I already have is OK on the new X570 boards, which there is no indication it won't be. The ram I am working with here is something called TeamGroup Team Dark Pro and it appears to be decent enough not to have to replace it (except for what ever cheap DDR4 I get for the server of course).

Oh, and for some reason I cant get this system to do over 3200 Mhz ram. I spent a week or two messing with it and just gave up. The 3200 XMP profile seems to work great though, but I wanted my first Ryzen system to do 3600 or better.
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Quote: Originally Posted by }SkOrPn--' View Post
My situation is very unique actually. I wasn't planning on adopting Ryzen until at least the 3000 series. However, one day in June 2018, the mail man delivered me a ASRock AB350 Pro4 and some Samsung B-dies from an uncle of mine (Don't be surprised, my uncle always sends me stuff to sell on ebay). The board needed some repair and being a Electronics Tech by trade he figured I could repair it and sell it on eBay, so that was my plan all along. However, once it was repaired (PCIe slot was shattered and PCIe pins had melted, and no back plate was to be found) I couldn't find the will to put it up on eBay (lol), so I bought a 2600X for it and was surprised that it just worked like new. I wasn't expecting it to be as solid as it has been so I sold my Rampage III Extreme and Xeon to another over clocker here and been using this setup ever since late last summer.

The problem I now face is the fact that I don't do mediocre or mid range boards myself, I do boards in the enthusiast class (mainly because I want longevity with very high quality components), not only that I figure the X570 and Ryzen 3000 will be the series that the industry finally starts taking AMD seriously. Since I was waiting for gen three all along I can't get myself to buy a X370 or X470 board knowing I will be getting the Ryzen 9 3000 series soon (when I already have a working AM4 board) as that was never the plan. So this repaired B350 board has been holding me over until X570 appears on the scene. I want a truly good board for Ryzen 3000, something that will last as long as my Asus Rampage did for me (which went through 3 CPU upgrades), maybe a Taichi Ultimate level or another anus, maybe the next Crosshair X570. I will probably use this 2600X for a few weeks or maybe even a Month as I watch closely everyone else jump on the 3000, haha. Anyway, once I am satisfied that the 7nm 3000 series is the one to jump on, I will then retire this 2600X into Home Server duties and then get the Ryzen 9 16 core chip, assuming its a real product. I just hope this B-die that I already have is OK on the new X570 boards, which there is no indication it won't be. The ram I am working with here is something called TeamGroup Team Dark Pro and it appears to be decent enough not to have to replace it (except for what ever cheap DDR4 I get for the server of course).

Oh, and for some reason I cant get this system to do over 3200 Mhz ram. I spent a week or two messing with it and just gave up. The 3200 XMP profile seems to work great though, but I wanted my first Ryzen system to do 3600 or better.
MBs with 300 series chipsets were never good with memory, not because of chipset itself but because of memory slot routing. I had almost exact MB Asus Prime x370 pro and exact same RAM as now and RAM wouldn't reliably go over 3200MHz for love or money. Switching to Prime x4700 immediately allowed full 3600 MHz and now with latest bios all I have to do is to set DOCP at 3000 and memory to 3600 and it automatically let it run full speed with much lower CL16 than what XMP is showing it should be Cl18.
I expect MBs with x570 chipset to be even better as it looks like 3rd gen Ryzen may have support for 5000MHz RAM.

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R5 [email protected] All cores @ 1.375v Memory @ 3,733MHz
well, seems I got a turd as 2600X lol

I did not focused really on cpu oc since I have this rig, I've spent more time on speeding up the ram, so maybe I can lower voltages when setting 4250 fixed frequency but I'm keeping it at 1,44V with LLC1 (I just looked at the vcore the xfr/pbo were keeping the cores at when in max boost, it was 1,45ish so i tried that vcore as the ceiling and see if it worked).

Anyway, since it is a gaming rig I wanted the best latency as I could get and I'm not that interested in max read/write throughput and according to your values seem I can get lower latency with just 3400 memory cl14 and fast sub-timings

I got that the more the ram have high frequency and less the cpu oc will be stable (except one have golden samples of both cpu, ram and mobo of course)

My personal goal would be a [email protected] all cores with 60ns of latency on ram but I'm stuck at 4250 all cores and unstable 3400 cl14 fast rpeset for ram (I'm not fully stable on hunt showdown, and when you get a crash in that game can be very, very disappointing so I revert back to 3200 xmp which is a shame!)

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MBs with 300 series chipsets were never good with memory, not because of chipset itself but because of memory slot routing. I had almost exact MB Asus Prime x370 pro and exact same RAM as now and RAM wouldn't reliably go over 3200MHz for love or money. Switching to Prime x4700 immediately allowed full 3600 MHz and now with latest bios all I have to do is to set DOCP at 3000 and memory to 3600 and it automatically let it run full speed with much lower CL16 than what XMP is showing it should be Cl18.
I expect MBs with x570 chipset to be even better as it looks like 3rd gen Ryzen may have support for 5000MHz RAM.
Yeah your thoughts are exactly what I was expecting. Not sure why ASRock puts so much overclocking features in the bios on a $80 B350 board.

Anyway, it's now far too close to the X570 boards to even consider X470, especially knowing that Ryzen 3000 is probably going to be my next cpu. Still kinda in shock that the X570 will need active cooling out of the box though (I hate small noisy fans that attract dust). What did AMD do use a full fat ARM SoC as the chipset? Lol
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Still kinda in shock that the X570 will need active cooling out of the box though (I hate small noisy fans that attract dust). What did AMD do use a full fat ARM SoC as the chipset? Lol
really? where did you get this info excuse me?

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