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post #2981 of 2997 (permalink) Old 12-01-2019, 08:35 AM
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X570 Elite supports up to 4000,
so you can't use default XMP.

Secondly this kit is not in the QVL list.


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Quote: Originally Posted by athkatla View Post
X570 Elite supports up to 4000,
so you can't use default XMP.

Secondly this kit is not in the QVL list.


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Sorry forgot to say this is running at 3400 MHz and 3600mhz. Yes I understand this isn't on the QVL.
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Quote: Originally Posted by athkatla View Post
X570 Elite supports up to 4000,
so you can't use default XMP.

Secondly this kit is not in the QVL list.


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There are still people mentioning the QVL??
Really?
Do you know how many ram modules are out of the qvl list and they have outstanding performance?

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No I don't know, can you please enlighten me? How many there are?

I suppose you also are aware of how many modules are not in QVL but don't have outstanding performance.

And finally maybe you could guide the OP with your wisdom to achieve this great performance with his kit.

Am waiting anxiously for the results as I am interested in buying this kit.

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Was playing with my second config (BLS8G4D30AESEK x2 edie + 2600x and Asus B450-i) got 3800cl16 on 1.45v
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2. Ryzen 5 2600X / ASUS B450-I / Ballistix / 590 nitro+

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Trying to get more than 2933MHz out of my Hynix MFR. 1usmus' calculator will give me timings for 3200 that will fail memory training, so I tried putting in 3200MHz at CL16 with everything else on auto with 1.35v and it POSTed. I'm not sure what to do next though, it seems importing the XMP gives the calculator optimistic timings.

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Quote: Originally Posted by athkatla View Post
No I don't know, can you please enlighten me? How many there are?

I suppose you also are aware of how many modules are not in QVL but don't have outstanding performance.

And finally maybe you could guide the OP with your wisdom to achieve this great performance with his kit.

Am waiting anxiously for the results as I am interested in buying this kit.

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It's not something new. Search if you want to find more info.

At the end of the day, the QVL is just an indication.
For example, my trident 3200 rams weren't included at this list and still they can perform amazingly at 3733 16-15-15.

So buy the RAM that you consider as good and don't select them just from the QVL list.

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Nice, can you share you overclocking secrets with oRuin?

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2 x 8Gb TridentZ 4266c19

Did a fair bit of testing ended up at 4578c18. IF 1885Mhz

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I was wondering if someone could help me as I have been trying to get my system stable for 2 days.
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I'm running my IF at 1800 that is stable. My memory is running at 3600 with the timings shown below. Timings are from an exported Thaiphoon full html report, imported into Ryzen Memory Calculator.
My issue is I cannot get 1T at all. It's absolutely stable at 2T but with 1T prime95 Large FFTs crashes almost instantly.

I'm at my wits end!

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Default XMP of 19-19-19-39 @ all different volts. Fails memtest and Prime95 Large FFTs everytime with 1T enabled. Gear Down doesn't help either. Shame.



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Have you set literally every advanced setting as shown by Ryzen DRAM Calc? Most of these are generally needed to stabilize IFclk, voltage is less important.

In the Advanced settings/AMD CBS menu of your board, please set VPP_MEM voltage, VTT_DDR voltage (half of RAM clock), and every setting (or nearly every setting) I highlighted in red in this image:


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You need to set CAD_Bus settings, BankGroupSwap_Alt, Proc_ODT and all voltages correctly too

If you're already doing this, no worries, don't mean to patronize, but a lot of people here are lazy with Ryzen memory overclocking and dont set literally every setting (or are too stupid to go into every single menu in AMD CBS under advanced, where they all are... ) then wonder why they can't get their memory past 3600MHz. I've mostly given up helping because certain people refuse to listen

I assume at the least you are entering every timing: in that case, some of the primary + subtimings its telling you to set are pretty aggressive and will fail to POST on my setup- or they will and I'll boot into Windows and it will be fine, but I'll reboot and my board won't post (15, 22, 8d, and eventually F9 (Loading Recovery Module) POST codes) and I will have to reset it and load a profile again

I can tell you 100% that especially on more recent BIOS versions, I've had serious issues running my RAM at any frequency @ CAS14, regardless of voltage. They will do 3800 c16 and I've even done 4066/1866 fclk cas 16, but aren't stable anymore at XMP at 3200MHz 14-14-14-14-39-55! (On AGESA 1.0.0.3, BIOS 0803 on my system when I first got this setup they were fine and even did those timings at 3600MHz)

So I would suggest setting every advanced setting I listed; even missing FFE and DFE Training in my case can cause my system to fail to boot at high fclk.

I would also suggest

CAS: 16
tRCDWR: 16
tRCDRD: 17 (this one often needs to be one clock higher)
tRP: 16
tRAS: 32 (30 is too low and will be crash prone)
tRC: 50, or 55 (48 is too low and will be crash prone)
tCWL: 16
tRFC: 304 or 312 (288 is riding the edge of whats possible)
tFAW: 16, 20 or 24. Preferably 20 but if it errors try 24. 12 is ludicriously low.
bring up tRRDS to 6 and tRRDL to 8


These are much looser timings but I can run these from 3600 all the way to 4066 if I wish, I keep it synchronous at 3800/1900

If you want tighter primaries, try 14-15-16-15-32-47 (or 48). tRC = tRP + tRAS

Always test by booting in 2T first, as Ryzen 3000 seems to have problems with the IMC and Infinity Fabric training initial overclocks at 1T or even 1T GDM ON. Also, start low and raise memory frequency gradually- 3200/1600, then 3600/1800, then 3733/1866 or 3800/1900. Theres a bug in the bios on my board currently where if you try and go right from 2400 or whatever to 3800 without first running the fclk at 1600MHz then 1800MHz, it will essentially never boot, regardless of settings, voltage, etc.

With either timing set I gave, if you still have issues then loosen your ProcODT termination impedance- raise it to 36.9 and run all the ones below it at 24. You can also try raising each of these values one notch higher, but it's not recommended.

I'd start with changing all this, trying my timings, and booting at 3200/1600 THEN 3600/1800 after making the changes, at 2T first, then try 1T GDM, (if it fails here raise timings e.g. use the first set I gave), then 1T. Good luck.

I remember in the 90s when Patriot, Kingston and Corsair were the shizz for DRAM... but since I've been building (2009), I only use G.SKILL

Been a happy camper. If they can't do XMP and can't even run 3600/1800 (i.e. if all my advice fails you), then RMA or return (as its defective or not compatible) and get my kit. G.SKILL Flare X 3200MHz 14-14-14-34 (20nm Samsung B-Die, 8.7ns cas stock). You won't be disappointed. Out of the two others here with Ryzen and the kit I have, all of us can OC to very high margins and low timings, and this kit is guaranteed Samsung B-Die, whereas the TridentZ Neo RGB 3600 c16 that youtube tech personalities are pushing can be either SKHynix or Samsung. It was like $119. https://www.amazon.com/G-SKILL-Flare...flare+x&sr=8-1

Im thrilled with what this kit does, I've been OCing RAM since DDR-266 (cas 2!) and never had a kit overclock this well. It literally runs 13 memory dividers higher than what it's rated for (3200 c14 -> 4066 c16)

Anyway I hope this helps you as well as others. Let me know how it goes. If anyone else needs help, feel free to ask- I'll keep an eye on this thread for a while and take a break from Forza... btw, anyone playing The Outer Worlds? Is it good? I haven't liked any Western PC RPGs since the last Dragon Age game (which everyone else hates but I enjoyed.) This rig has always primarily been equipped for 60Hz, immersive single player RPGs... Outer Worlds looks interesting and I'd love to play a high end RPG on my new Ultrawide...

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