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post #3061 of 3096 (permalink) Old 02-08-2020, 11:33 PM
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[Official] AMD Ryzen DDR4 24/7 Memory Stability Thread

Quote: Originally Posted by polkfan View Post
That's Samsung B-die my kit was also programmed incorrectly don't bother contacting G-skill they will say D-die but you don't get those timings with anything else but B-die


Yeah I was gonna say it has to be b-die because I have only seen a select few d-die kits that even hit 3600MHz C16, let alone ones that do better than 16-19-19-19-38. Even at 3200MHz you’re hard pressed to get 14-17-17-17-36 without stupid voltages (1.5v+).

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I am now balled over with the price/performance of Micron E die ...

First this screenie, left to right:-
  • 3x AIDA64 for usual timings I use on Samsung B die
  • 3x AIDA64 for current timings I'm using on Micron E die.
  • Initial testing for the Micron E die profile as used for 3x AIDA64.
  • 3737% RAM Test for 3x AIDA64 3800C16, but VDIMM 1.365V.

Next 12.5K PASS in Kahru RAM Test for 3800C16 1.365V.



Here's an updated ZIP for 3800MHz testing so far, organise files by time, Setup means profile set in UEFI, WP means a Warm Post test run, SPx means count of testing on Same Post, when a filename is repeated exactly I'm just capturing data of the same test run but later in it.

Quote: Originally Posted by basriwizz View Post
Hi, does anyone knows how much difference there is between G.Skill's 3000C14 and 3200C14 kits (4x16GB) ?
Is it worth the price difference betwem them? (like 100$ between them)
Consider Micorn E die if you have 3000 series Ryzen for sure.

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I came up to a stable system by loading 3600 MHz [email protected]@CR1 (Tref 288). But the 3800 MHz is a hard part. I getting reboots under CPU-load using these settings down below.
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An updated ZIP for Micron E die 3800MHz mixed testing of ~31hrs continuous uptime, organise files by time.

Filenames at beginning have:-
  • Setup means test on POST when profile setup in UEFI.
  • FCP means a full fold POST, ie power supply switched off from wall prior to POST.
  • FP means a full POST from shutdown.
  • WP means a warm POST test run.
  • SPx means count of testing on same Post.
  • When a filename is repeated exactly, just capturing data of the same test run but later.
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Quote: Originally Posted by gupsterg View Post
I've had:-



F4-3200C14D-16GTZ

F4-3600C15D-16GTZ

F4-3200C14Q-32GVK

F4-3200C14Q-32GTZSW

F4-4000C18Q-32GTZ

Patriot Viper Steel 4000MHz C19 2x8GB kit



Out of those 3200MHz C14 G.Skill been best buy for me. I should have BLS2K16G4D32AESB in my hands today.







I decided to buy FTB-3500C5-D, reason for opting for that version over FTB-3500C5-DR was mainly the issue of twisting I saw in video linked below. Plus I like the frame better ascetically and I believe it's ~15mm closer to RAM.







In a closed case, with somewhat restricted airflow (have 360mm rad at front/top), I'm bettering temps than open bench with a 120mm fan pointed at RAM at distance. Issue I have is whine from these fans, I can hear their distinct whine over 6x F12 and 1x BQSW3. After a bit more testing I think I may change the molex connector to 3pin mobo header one and set a fan profile to improve noise profile.



Left screenie is with BQSW3 [email protected] (red arrow in photo), right is FTB-3500C5-D.







As stated in the video of the other version, purchase of the fan cooler to dimm slots is not that great ....
I have the 3200C15-16GTZ and they are pretty good.
Managed to hit 62.5ns in Aida at 3733 15-14-14

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An updated ZIP, organise files by time. On Micron E die 3800MHz Phase 1 mixed testing of ~48hrs continuous uptime, Phase 2 I have lowered VDIMM to set value of 1.36V, from past experience with board a read with DMM on Probeit point for this would be ~1.364V.

Filenames at beginning have:-
  • Setup means test on POST when profile setup in UEFI.
  • FCP means a full fold POST, ie power supply switched off from wall prior to POST.
  • FP means a full POST from shutdown.
  • WP means a warm POST test run.
  • SPx means count of testing on same Post.
  • When a filename is repeated exactly, just capturing data of the same test run but later.

Quote: Originally Posted by rastaviper View Post
I have the 3200C15-16GTZ and they are pretty good.
Managed to hit 62.5ns in Aida at 3733 15-14-14
Nice .
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F4-3200C16D-32GTZRX

Hi guys, new to Ryzen and DDR4. Am currently testing 4x16GB of F4-3200C16D-32GTZRX. There doesn't seem to be a lot of information around 4x16GB overclocking. My goal is to get maximum performance within 24/7 safe voltages. (not comfortable going above 1.4v MEM)


Setup:

3600X + Asus x570 Tuf
Two kits of 2X16 F4-3200C16D-32GTZRX, (not one kit of 4x16gb)
According to typhoonburner, Dual rank, Samsung B-die???



Tests:

3200 @ 15-16-16-17-54 @1.35v, .975 SOC (6pass memtest64, 48hrs no errors, only tested stock voltage so far)
3600 @ 17-21-21-21-60 @1.40v, 1.10 SOC (memtest errors immediately @1.35v + .975 SOC, running first pass memtest64 now, no errors yet...)


Memtest64 takes around 8hours per pass... So I would appreciate some feedback before pushing further...



I've seen latency calculations like 3200/15 = latency, but doesn't seem to take into account sub-timings. How much further would my timings @3600 have to drop to be worthwhile over [email protected]? or should I just try to get 3200 to C14 and call it a day?


There are so many sub-timings, which are the most impactful/worth exploring? (other than the standard CL-X-X-RP-RAS-RC)
any other rules of thumb like RC >= RAS+RP that I should keep in mind?

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Quote: Originally Posted by runeoe View Post
Hi guys, new to Ryzen and DDR4. Am currently testing 4x16GB of F4-3200C16D-32GTZRX. There doesn't seem to be a lot of information around 4x16GB overclocking. My goal is to get maximum performance within 24/7 safe voltages. (not comfortable going above 1.4v MEM)


Setup:

3600X + Asus x570 Tuf
Two kits of 2X16 F4-3200C16D-32GTZRX, (not one kit of 4x16gb)
According to typhoonburner, Dual rank, Samsung B-die???



Tests:

3200 @ 15-16-16-17-54 @1.35v, .975 SOC (6pass memtest64, 48hrs no errors, only tested stock voltage so far)
3600 @ 17-21-21-21-60 @1.40v, 1.10 SOC (memtest errors immediately @1.35v + .975 SOC, running first pass memtest64 now, no errors yet...)


Memtest64 takes around 8hours per pass... So I would appreciate some feedback before pushing further...



I've seen latency calculations like 3200/15 = latency, but doesn't seem to take into account sub-timings. How much further would my timings @3600 have to drop to be worthwhile over [email protected]? or should I just try to get 3200 to C14 and call it a day?


There are so many sub-timings, which are the most impactful/worth exploring? (other than the standard CL-X-X-RP-RAS-RC)
any other rules of thumb like RC >= RAS+RP that I should keep in mind?


I learned a few things from watching buildzoid, b-die likes to stay under 50C range, so sometimes by raising voltage it might make it go over its stable temp threshold, check out this one:

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I learned a few things from watching buildzoid, b-die likes to stay under 50C range, so sometimes by raising voltage it might make it go over its stable temp threshold, check out this one: https://youtu.be/ZJDXsoYKZaY
I have never seen any RAM temps lot than 35 degrees, even at 1.45v
Someone should have really bad airflow to hit 50+ temps.

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I have never seen any RAM temps lot than 35 degrees, even at 1.45v
Someone should have really bad airflow to hit 50+ temps.

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Yeah i was thinking the same thing, only time i’ve really seen it is when pushing 1.6v+.

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