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post #31 of 609 (permalink) Old 09-11-2017, 05:33 PM
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ok... sorry for the imidiate post again, but I just added the cinebench results and they very closely reflect what I was seeing in games... the cpu/nb seems to play a big role in getting FX to perform properly.... even disabling turbo core tech I was able to get higher scores across the board just by overclocking the cpu/nb and ram moreso than overclocking the cores themselves.

those are some impressive numbers. A very interesting pic and description.

edit: that looks like a max oc'd 4770k right?

Ok so i couldnt help but run the bench on the 24/7 OC for my 8350. biggrin.gifWarning: Spoiler! (Click to show)


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ram @ 2080mhz
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22 multiplier and 223 fsb

And i ran it one more time with everything the same but multiplier bumped to 23 so 5.13ghz. Unfortunately my board can't push stable voltage at this level so I could never use this as a 24/7 OC, but here are the results anyway.




and finally i ran stock

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I'm not sure if that 4770k is max oc or not... it was the ref number that came with cinebench... Thanks for sharing your numbers... looking good yourself there... it's amazing what a difference it makes to FX to be overclocked all around rather than just a core clock increase isn't it. seems like the "magic" point for cpu/nb is getting over 2400mhz which your daily profile gets just beyond it. I'm just glad I have some time before I have to upgrade biggrin.gif

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hi all come across this thread while looking for info on a cpu cooler, guessing we are overclocking FSB here? I would like to upgrade from my current air cooler. Reading this thread and seeing all these great overclock numbers I want more. Currently sitting at 4.3ghz ram running at 1600mhz(rated for 1866) and vcore at about 1.42, with no LLC . temps ambient are at 23-25 degrees Celsius , cpu core around 65 degrees Celsius at full load gaming. Long story short what is a good upgraded cpu cooler air or liquid that wont break the bank going from my current enermax ets t40 tb model. Thanks for any suggestions in advance.

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IIRC the best gain from overclocking is when you keep a 1:1 ratio between cpu-nb and HTT and cpu-nb should be at least 3:1 with RAM, 3600cpunb for 1200(ddr2400) ram, 2400cpunb for 800(ddr1600) ram
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I looked into old Cinebench stuff and found evidence that FSB OCing is indeed faster at higher clocks in Cinebench.



Probable settings used in the 2nd run.


The interesting part is that the first run was on the GD80 which felt very fast and snappy while the other was on the Sabertooth which seemed a little sluggish.

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hi all come across this thread while looking for info on a cpu cooler, guessing we are overclocking FSB here? I would like to upgrade from my current air cooler. Reading this thread and seeing all these great overclock numbers I want more. Currently sitting at 4.3ghz ram running at 1600mhz(rated for 1866) and vcore at about 1.42, with no LLC . temps ambient are at 23-25 degrees Celsius , cpu core around 65 degrees Celsius at full load gaming. Long story short what is a good upgraded cpu cooler air or liquid that wont break the bank going from my current enermax ets t40 tb model. Thanks for any suggestions in advance.

hard to say really ... I thing the corsair H100i series would be good but not to expensive... noctua is a good air cooler brand to look into as well if you have room for it

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IIRC the best gain from overclocking is when you keep a 1:1 ratio between cpu-nb and HTT and cpu-nb should be at least 3:1 with RAM, 3600cpunb for 1200(ddr2400) ram, 2400cpunb for 800(ddr1600) ram

I've heard this... and I wish I could hit 3600 cpu/nb, but alas I can't... I'd love to try it to see exactly what effect it had... but as for the cpu/nb and htt being the same it is on mine... usually I keep them the same because in order to get the htt higher than 2600 I have to overclock via the FSB... so I push that to get over that when I want to... but I've noticed that the htt runs higher than the cpu/nb can... sigh

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I looked into old Cinebench stuff and found evidence that FSB OCing is indeed faster at higher clocks in Cinebench.



Probable settings used in the 2nd run.


The interesting part is that the first run was on the GD80 which felt very fast and snappy while the other was on the Sabertooth which seemed a little sluggish.

I've noticed that some bios revisions seem to be sluggish on the saberkitty but only with certain software... not sure if that could have been the issue you had or not... but yeah oc'ing via the FSB or just oc'ing everything else does net me better scores consistently in almost all benchmarks where memory is a limiting factor.

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Naw, the GD80 is just a really snappy board while the Sabertooth varied from sluggish to ok.

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Naw, the GD80 is just a really snappy board while the Sabertooth varied from sluggish to ok.
Same experience for me chvz vs gd 80.

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Same experience for me chvz vs gd 80.
now I wish I had tried out a GD80.... oh well... too late now... not investing anything more in this rig.

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