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post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old 01-21-2018, 11:00 AM - Thread Starter
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I'm looking for some feedback from those of you who mainly used the Intel platform for the past 10-15 years and then jumped to AMD Threadripper. I'm considering the 1950x for my new build and would like some honest opinions on how your experience has been and what (if any) regrets you have from making the choice to go TR.

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FWIW, my upgrade path was...

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I'm not a fanboy of either manufacturer. That being said, 5960x @ 4.7GHz is about on par, if not a smidgen faster, than TR 1950X @ 4.15GHz at single thread loads. TR exceeds in performance obviously in multithread in apps that can properly use all the threads, but I've had some hiccups in some things where too many threads doesn't work well. An example was OBS H.264 encoding. Unless I change setting to limit threads to 8 or less, it will drop tons of frames and seemingly not be able to keep up on encoding. It should be able to encode 1440p60 @ medium with ease but for whatever reason, thread count is a huge impact and more is not better. Thats only 1 instance though.

Theres also the issue of UMA vs NUMA. While UMA can be quicker for apps that like wide memory access, it comes with a hit to latency, which some games like arma 3 really hate. I'm talking to the degree of 70FPS on NUMA, but 45FPS with UMA. I have not yet used a new high core count intel with their new mesh L3 cache, but since it's all 1 contiguous die with no modules, it shouldn't suffer from thread breakpoints like TR does. It also has a wide memory access that maintains low latency, but then you're really digging into your wallet. TR has great multithread performance per $.

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Cant speak to Threadripper, but I went from 2500k>2700k>3570K>3770k>4770K>Ryzen 1700

My only regret was early adopting and not researching ram + board compatibility and cheeping out on a borad. Other than that things are mature now, ive got a better board and its flawless except for the lack luster overclocking.


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Kind of in the same boat. I was about to buy a new CPU until Spectre/Meltdown happened. Now, I am thinking on finally going back to AMD (last time was AMD XP) because who knows how many months it will take for Intel to release new hardware not vulnerable to this.

I am guessing Overclocking must be the only downside?

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I had been using Intel exclusively in my household since the Core 2 Duo.

I don't really consider myself an Intel fan, and I've built AMD systems for clients when it was the more suitable choice, but AMD simply didn't offer anything over those years that made sense for my usage.

That said, I recently replaced my i5 server with a Ryzen 7 server and am extremely happy with it, and plan to replace my hexcore i7 main system with a threadripper 2 later this year.

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I had been using Intel exclusively in my household since the Core 2 Duo.

I don't really consider myself an Intel fan, and I've built AMD systems for clients when it was the more suitable choice, but AMD simply didn't offer anything over those years that made sense for my usage.

That said, I recently replaced my i5 server with a Ryzen 7 server and am extremely happy with it, and plan to replace my hexcore i7 main system with a threadripper 2 later this year.

Well that settles it. If zero is on board you cant complain. i remember @Zero4549 first identified my bottle neck years ago with xfire 6970s


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I purchased an 8700K then read about meltdown, and frankly I am kinda mad now. Last timer I owned AMD was also the Athlon 64/XP days. Been on intel since Core 2 Duo. I wanted intel 7900X , but too high, I really would like the PCIE lanes for my 960Pro and 960Evo. I eventually want to have no drives aside from NVME. Threadripper has the lanes I need in case I ever decide on SLI again. But I do game and don't want to sacrifice that.
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I purchased an 8700K then read about meltdown, and frankly I am kinda mad now. Last timer I owned AMD was also the Athlon 64/XP days. Been on intel since Core 2 Duo. I wanted intel 7900X , but too high, I really would like the PCIE lanes for my 960Pro and 960Evo. I eventually want to have no drives aside from NVME. Threadripper has the lanes I need in case I ever decide on SLI again. But I do game and don't want to sacrifice that.

What makes you think having a TR automatically means you cant game on it? Of course you can game on it. I mean the comparison is like PS4 Pro VS Xbox one X. The PS4 Pro may have slower specs, but it's no less a gaming machine than the Xbox One X. It's just with TR you have more threads so you can do more production stuff with it. Gaming may be a little slower, but cmon. It's like 135FPS vs 160FPS.

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I started with and AMD K5 processor a very long time ago and have had all the series that were released up to my FX 8350. About 2 years ago I wanted to try an Intel build and went with 4790k that is still my gaming rig, but I have been lusting after another AMD build for sometime, so I'm looking at upgrading to Ryzen+.

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I have no threadripper experience, but. . .

My path looks like this.
AMD 940BE lapped and slightly overclocked
I5-2500K @4.7ghz.
Ryzen 7 1700 system

I could never justify upgrading my 2500K system because with the overclock I never had any issues doing anything I asked it to do. It really was an amazing processor at the time! I got a R7 1700 for stupid cheap and sold the Intel system to fund the remainder of the system.

I have absolutely no regrets going with the 1700. Even If I could have purchased the I5-8600K for the same price, I would have gone AMD due to the long term support and AMD's more consumer friendly approach. I cant afford to upgrade everything very often, but with AMD I'm a lot more likely to be able to swap in better components down the road than if I went with Intel. I also want more threads for doing stuff like running game servers with Steam running in the background while hosting TS and the likes.

Overall I'm extremely pleased with my system and how it performs. It's not overclocked yet but it's running the 3200mhz memory at their rated speed without issue, its much faster than my old Intel system.

The only thing that will differentiate a 1950x system and a 8700k system in gaming is going the be reading the benchmark numbers, real world sitting there playing the game you will not notice a difference. Gaming at anything over 1080p the 1950x gets close and closer.


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