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post #1781 of 1835 (permalink) Old 05-25-2019, 07:08 AM
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I think I summed up the hardware vulnerabilities fairly well, but this article may shed addition light, and it shows just how much performance processors up to the i7 8700K are going to loose:


https://www.techspot.com/article/185...per-threading/





As anyone can see with these glaring vulnerabilities the new Ryzen processors suddenly stack very well vs the "performance kings" and even older piledriver processors suddenly don't look as bad as they once did. Its also important to note that even when bios updates come to "patch" the problems with software, its just a software patch and very vulnerable to hack. The only real way to stop these vulnerabilities is at the hardware level which Intel may do when they launch 10nm in 2020, or 2021, maybe 2022.... Until then the only way to stop the vulnerabilities without leaving yourself open to hacking the upcoming bios software "patches" is by disabling hyper-threading and taking a sizeable performance hit (Apple is already telling its consumers to disable hyper-threading to protect themselves from lawsuit).


The truly chilling part of all this is that major governments in the "free world" have always turned to Intel processors to power their government issued PCs, as well as most every major hospital, insurance providers, banks, ect... Now hacking you or me won't net much for a professional or even government employed hacker, but hacking government officials, or banking institutions are very worth their time and effort. Intel through their gross negligence has not only put normal consumers at risk but major corporations, banks, insurance providers, hospitals, and yes even entire governments. These vulnerabilities have been around since Sandy Bridge but were only brought to light a short time ago. Its too early to tell exactly what kind of damage has been wrought by criminals and rival governments utilizing these hardware vulnerabilities over such a vast time period. Its doubtful that Intel will ever be held accountable for this negligence but it should be.

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Looks like we are going to have to wait a little longer before finding out about the new Ryzen 3000 series. Apparently at Computex AMD is doing their X570 launch, the 3000 series won't be launched till June 10th, the performance embargo will end July 7th and they will launch and be available for purchase. I was really hoping they would be available in June, however if AMD needs a little more time to perfect them that's better than an earlier launch....



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Interesting, tnx for sharing. Anyway, July is fine with me but it got me thinking about chipset.

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105 TDP FOR 12 CORE

Its 50$ more than my budget but i"ll go for it and use my prime pro for now.

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it may be some time, but I think I want that new 12 core chip.... thought about the 16 core they didn't show, but was actually seen and benched there... but that's too much... that 12 core though is within the tdp of this board given that it's not having any trouble with the 2700x... assuming support, I'll likely upgrade sometime before fall.

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Quote: Originally Posted by rdr09 View Post
105 TDP FOR 12 CORE

Its 50$ more than my budget but i"ll go for it and use my prime pro for now.
You're gonna wanna blow on the VRMs on that Prime Pro after you upgrade.

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I'm wary of running the 12 core on the existing X470 boards... I have a high end board, but looking at the new X570 boards Asus is listing... Lets just say they make the existing high end X470 boards look underwhelming... They are boasting huge heat sinks and even active cooling via fans in the heat sinks... The TDP is the same as the 2700X but they are building these boards extremely beefy for a reason... I would also like to go for the R9 3900X, however I may end up "settling" for the R7 3800X, depending on how far you can overclock that 8 core component. I won't make my final decision until the actual reviews comes out, but I am seriously wondering if the X470 boards will be enough to fully support the R9 3900X..





I mean look at this beast and then look at your current X370 or X470 board..

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At any rate a 15% IPC uplift is amazing and the new 3000 series is going to really put Intel on their heels, if not their butts...

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At any rate a 15% IPC uplift is amazing and the new 3000 series is going to really put Intel on their heels, if not their butts...
For next couple of years, all Intel can do is to counter attack by fixing manufacturing process and binning to pick and choose best specimens, give them better IHS heat transfer and designate them for higher frequency. The very fabric in architecture that made it such high performance is holding present architecture by being a security hole and nightmare. That's why they are so feverishly working on changing micro code and at same time trying to attenuate it's bad effects on performance by OS patches.

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