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post #1861 of 1877 (permalink) Old 10-22-2019, 03:57 PM - Thread Starter
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The PBO OC only boosts a single core to 4.2ghz tho right? I’d like to get all 8 to 4.2-4.4 😉
actually it will hold 4.2 on all cores as long as power limits aren't exceeded... but as mention in the post by Sandman, it's highly board dependent... with my board, it likes to send voltage and clocks pretty high.. I see single core clocks hitting 4.35 with PBO on, but only 4.3 with it off... with PBO on it will hold 4.15ghz even under very heavy loads... and under moderate loads will hold 4.25 on nearly constantly.... with it off it will only hold around 4.2 under moderate loads and 4ghz under heavy loads, again, it's governed by power limits... which PBO on this board is defined as using "board" limits... which to me translates into, burn baby burn mode... basically it's only when the power limits of my board are hit that it downclocks the cpu... at first I didn't think this B350 was all that beefy, but it's really impressed me with just how much power those 4+2 vrm's can actually deliver...

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I’ve also read Agesa 1.0.0.3ABBA gives some better POB performance increases, I’m still on the previous Agesa 1.0.0.3AB so I’ll flash the bios tonight.

I honestly didn’t plan on upgrading till Ryzen 4xxx but $125 for a 2700x was just to temping and almost a free side grade 😉

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I’ve also read Agesa 1.0.0.3ABBA gives some better POB performance increases, I’m still on the previous Agesa 1.0.0.3AB so I’ll flash the bios tonight.

I honestly didn’t plan on upgrading till Ryzen 4xxx but $125 for a 2700x was just to temping and almost a free side grade 😉
I just hope that ASUS releases a bios for this board that doesn't try to kill the chip with voltage... when PBO first came to this board it wasn't so aggressive with voltage and a simple undervolt/PBO enable was better than manual all core overclock in all instances... now I can get a slightly better manual all core overclock but then single core performance suffers a little... I can manually overclock to 4.25 ghz pretty easy with this board and chip... no lottery winner here either.... 4.15 @ 1.35v is as high as I would be comfortable leaving it for all use cases, like folding and such... but for normal/gaming uses 4.25 is ok, but takes 1.45v to get it prime 95 stable... for simple benchmarks like cinebench, I can get away with significantly less voltage.


Come to think of it, my chip, not being a lottery winner, might just be the reason why the bios is giving it so much voltage... it might need it lol....

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With my 1700x I wasn’t able to upgrade to X570,
I’ve been eying the Asus x570 Strix-E for months lol
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I was able to get 4.3ghz with 1.45v stable manual OC.

But with PBO and some blk adjustments got 4.4ghz max boost. Will drop under load tho even if it stays under 70C not sure where to go from there.

2700x is a hot power hungry sucker when compared to the 1700x and seems to like temp spikes goes from 43c then 50c then back down then spikes to 50c again.

PBO is bouncing back 1.45v 1.5v which looks scary to me, but if it’s doing it then AMD must think it’s ok.
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i got my 2700x @4GHz with 1.265v if i remember correctly.
Paste in some pics later today.
I also got my WC parts, not all but a few so i could run the 2700x on it.

So far it seems stable but needs more stability tested to be Sure its rockstable.



Did 4x30min on occt, played bfv, pubg, chernobylite.No issues so far,only sometimes windows wont start the audioservice, but i believe its just windows.

Prime95 Tests scheduled for the Weekend.

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My 2700x

Just completed my custom watercooled X470/2700x build and used that Asus/Ryzen buyback campaign.
X470 Crosshair Hero VII Wi-fi (BIOS 2801)
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Kept my Fury X, for now

Have not done extensive memory testing on it and planning to run memTest86.
D.O.C.P set to 3603 16-19-19-39. No stability issues yet in the few hours of game I have tried.
Any suggestion to which tests I should run?

I though I knew what I needed to know about Ryzen+, but understood that some things was still unexpected.
Got stressed over the rapid temperature spikes, though I did something wrong with the waterblock mounting.
But It seems this is normal based on all the post I have found.

So my understanding from the world of internet is that Ryzen+ do have Precision Boost 2 and XFR, which both are not consider as overclocks.
Precision Boost Overdrive (PBO) is

My main concern are all the conflicting information/opinions about the Vcore, but for manual overclock the main majority consider 1,35-1,4 Vcore as "safe" for all core overclock.
I tried PBO and did not like it. I got quite high voltage spikes 1,55< Vcore and temperatures was also high.
After rewatching der8auer review of this board which I have seen before, I now noticed that he states that "Perfomance enhancer" is XFR and therefore not consider as overclock?
This seems to be stated in the BIOS as well since ASUS only states "(OC)" on level 3 and 4.

So i got really good results on OC2, peaking on 4,340 Ghz on 2 cores. All core loads during Cinebench was hovering around 4,24-4,27 Ghz.
But also peaked 1,525 Vcore one core
I do believe I actually scored lower with PBO and the voltages and temps were higher.

So if Performance Enhancer really is XFR and not overclock, shouldn't I trust somewhat that AMD/ASUS do know what they are doing? I am on a fairly mature BIOS.
The voltage seems to stay around 1,4-1,45 even idle
The Vcore on OC1 are about 0,1V lower.
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Typical overclock is on all cores running full time, no idea why would anybody define a boost on one or more cores as an overclock when it's just a case of meeting CPU's top clock frequency.
Same goes for using XMP for RAM, it can't be overclock if you only set XMP to it's highest setting, the frequency RAM is made to run and is tested at. Only above XMP settings could be called overclock.
As for voltages at PBO/XFR, that's BIOS's job and many versions pushes to or above AMD defined high end of 1.5v with an excuse for "stability", most of times controllable by negative offset to lower that maximum or plus offset to get higher voltage when needed.

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Typical overclock is on all cores running full time, no idea why would anybody define a boost on one or more cores as an overclock when it's just a case of meeting CPU's top clock frequency.
Same goes for using XMP for RAM, it can't be overclock if you only set XMP to it's highest setting, the frequency RAM is made to run and is tested at. Only above XMP settings could be called overclock.
As for voltages at PBO/XFR, that's BIOS's job and many versions pushes to or above AMD defined high end of 1.5v with an excuse for "stability", most of times controllable by negative offset to lower that maximum or plus offset to get higher voltage when needed.
I don't know either, but maybe this is partly AMD/ASUS/other MB vendors fault to some extend. If XFR had been named XFR in the BIOS I probably wouldn't question it. And there so many post on people being concerned about the "high" Vcore.
I'm coming from 8 years on an Intel platform, so maybe it is just my head who is used to work on "old" accepted Vcore and old fashion all core OC

It is only when OC2 is enabled I reach the advertised boost speed of 4.35 GHz.
So I will keep OC2 on assuming this is just XFR and the processor is working as intended.

Also found this post on the AMD forum where they quote Robert Hallock about the Vcore boost.
https://community.amd.com/thread/232990
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Performance Enhancer on the Extreme Tweaker page is presets of Precision Boost Override/Precision Boost Overdrive, all in fact are OC.

I have not updated OP here in a while but a lot is still correct, link.

In regard to high voltage on low loads/core count that's normal and is not an issue as current draw would be low. You are best of referencing OP this thread and then this post.
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