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post #1041 of 1111 (permalink) Old 11-08-2019, 08:26 AM
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Anyone making the 3000 series club yet?

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Quote: Originally Posted by Minotaurtoo View Post
I understand why all of you are so salty... basically someone with a decent B350 board can now have the same performance as a 1 or 2nd gen 16 core threadripper on their dirt cheap board and still likely have support for one more generation yet.. but threadripper x399 basically got tossed under the bus. I have a list here of how many B350 boards can actually run the upcoming 3950x and I was shocked to see mine was on the list... checked on bios support and so far only the 3900x has been added... I was upset I couldn't afford to go with threadripper when it first came out... now... not so much... I was really hoping AMD was going to keep socket compatibility for threadripper like it did the mainstream, but I suppose they figured people in the threadripper market would be upset if they didn't get the latest greatest tech first.
I'm not salty for this reason, not at all.
I have an intel hedt and I was ready to spend up to 1100€ for the 24 cores and up to 1500/1600€ for the 32 cores. My money was there ready to buy at launch but sincerely now I feel that AMD is acting like intel.

Stupid prices. Full stop.

Mainstream get a lot more performance for the money, hedt get a stupid 24 cores for a whopping 1400€.

Intel sells a 18 cores (with faster cores) at 1000€, how AMD can sell a 24 cores at 1400€?

I'm out

All my hopes in AMD was vanished. They are as stupid as intel.

Thanks AMD to have forced intel to lower its prices but I will buy intel.

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Leave alone the fact that those platforms will live two years at most because of usb4 and ddr5.

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The "faster" intel cores aren't guaranteed. The "faster" speeds you are referring to are overclocking speeds and not guaranteed. Not to mention require a pretty good cooling solution in order to push the speeds you might want to attempt with an overclock.

I don't believe USB4 and DDR5 are going to cause any of the current systems to start kicking the bucket... this is the tech industry...we know advancements come every few years. The fact that AMD came out with PCIE4 stuff before Intel didn't cause all the PCIE3 Intel stuff to become crap.



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The "faster" intel cores aren't guaranteed. The "faster" speeds you are referring to are overclocking speeds and not guaranteed. Not to mention require a pretty good cooling solution in order to push the speeds you might want to attempt with an overclock.

I don't believe USB4 and DDR5 are going to cause any of the current systems to start kicking the bucket... this is the tech industry...we know advancements come every few years. The fact that AMD came out with PCIE4 stuff before Intel didn't cause all the PCIE3 Intel stuff to become crap.
But ddr5 will

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Meh. If everyone worried about what was coming out in 2+ years, the tech industry would suck. It is constantly changing and evolving. I wasn't worried what might be coming out in two years when I got my Titan Xps or my 2080ti. I buy the stuff that's good and current and reassess when I feel it is time to upgrade or if that upgrade is worth it later on down the road. I mean why buy the iPhone 11 or S10+ when a much better phone will be out in 2+ years?



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Quote: Originally Posted by sblantipodi View Post
I'm not salty for this reason, not at all.
I have an intel hedt and I was ready to spend up to 1100€ for the 24 cores and up to 1500/1600€ for the 32 cores. My money was there ready to buy at launch but sincerely now I feel that AMD is acting like intel.

Stupid prices. Full stop.

Mainstream get a lot more performance for the money, hedt get a stupid 24 cores for a whopping 1400€.

Intel sells a 18 cores (with faster cores) at 1000€, how AMD can sell a 24 cores at 1400€?

I'm out

All my hopes in AMD was vanished. They are as stupid as intel.

Thanks AMD to have forced intel to lower its prices but I will buy intel.
From what I've read, the 3950x actually beats the 9980xe in some cases... so I'm not so sure about those "faster" cores really... I'll wait till I see some more mainstream reviews before I pass judgment, but Toms hardware showed a benchmark where an early sample of the 3950x was winning in geekbench: https://www.tomshardware.com/news/am...nch,39640.html

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Anyone making the 3000 series club yet?

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I'd love to buy in on that 3960x... The performance difference vs the 3950x or my current 2950x will need to be substantially beyond my current expectations to justify the cost. The ball is in your court AMD - I'm waiting on real benchmarks / reviews.

That new Gigabyte Designare TR40 with the thunderbolt card is looking good though.

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Well I ended up on X399 simply because the $600 mobo was given to me and it has the capability of running four gpus which is one more than all my normal X470 platform mobos. It is my most productive host by far but the X470/3900X would match and exceed it if it could support four gpus also. The clock and memory improvement of Zen 2 over 2nd Gen. TR is substantial and bonus, the math performance of Zen 2 on my 3900X is 50% better than the math performance of my 2920X on a same clock speed for clock speed basis.

I would have loved to have the new 24 core Threadripper 3960X running in my X399 host. That was what I had planned when the Zen 2 TR's were rumored. Unless another freebie TRX40 mobo that supports 4 double wide gpus falls into my lap, I will stick with my existing X399/2920X combo.

I still see the 3900X selling for MSRP of $500. I got mine about a month after initial release date for $430 after stock was replenished. The same situation will likely occur on the 3950X. I still need to upgrade two more 2700X hosts to either 3900X or 3950X. But to do it justice I would probably covert my 280mm AIO cooling solutions over to custom cooling also. That adds significantly to the upgrade cost.

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Well I ended up on X399 simply because the $600 mobo was given to me and it has the capability of running four gpus which is one more than all my normal X470 platform mobos. It is my most productive host by far but the X470/3900X would match and exceed it if it could support four gpus also. The clock and memory improvement of Zen 2 over 2nd Gen. TR is substantial and bonus, the math performance of Zen 2 on my 3900X is 50% better than the math performance of my 2920X on a same clock speed for clock speed basis.

I would have loved to have the new 24 core Threadripper 3960X running in my X399 host. That was what I had planned when the Zen 2 TR's were rumored. Unless another freebie TRX40 mobo that supports 4 double wide gpus falls into my lap, I will stick with my existing X399/2920X combo.

I still see the 3900X selling for MSRP of $500. I got mine about a month after initial release date for $430 after stock was replenished. The same situation will likely occur on the 3950X. I still need to upgrade two more 2700X hosts to either 3900X or 3950X. But to do it justice I would probably covert my 280mm AIO cooling solutions over to custom cooling also. That adds significantly to the upgrade cost.
can I ask you what do you do with 4 GPUs sir?
do you use it for Boinc? If yes, what project in particular? Seti?

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