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post #711 of 875 (permalink) Old 03-15-2019, 08:31 AM
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Just had a quick question, what kind of overclocks can you get out of a 2920X? I got one pretty cheap, and only cost me an extra 70 bucks to get it after I sold my 1920X. My 1920X could do 4.1 on 1.4 but ran it at 4.0 at 1.3 volts. Just curious to see if the 2920X can PBO to 4.1 - 4.2 and still keep the 4.3 turbo.

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Quote: Originally Posted by 1usmus View Post
MSI MEG 1.32 mod

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Ft...ykFyoiQ3biBo8u

* without a list of changes
Without divulging the list of changes... should we expect better memory support in this? Faster overclocking? Or more of an maintenance release?
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Quote: Originally Posted by 1usmus View Post
MSI MEG 1.32 mod

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Ft...ykFyoiQ3biBo8u

* without a list of changes

@1usmus Thanks for this Bios update

Quote: Originally Posted by managerman View Post
It does not remove them, but you will need to create new

ones...older bios profiles will show up, but will not work with newer bios.

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...yes, best to take a screen shot of the saved profiles, or write them down prior to updating. I know most of my profile settings by heart, but 'better safe than frustrated later ', not least as a new Bios can affect performance settings via some new values for given variables.
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post #714 of 875 (permalink) Old 03-15-2019, 03:49 PM
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Out of curiosity, for those who have achieved a stable overclock of 4.2GHz on all cores on the 2990WX, what was your voltage/LLC? I have a chiller setup so temperatures are not an issue but am worried about jacking up my voltages past 1.45 and having an "extreme/upward" LLC core.

Thanks in Advance!

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Just for reference; I am running the x399 Meg Creation.

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I'm looking forward to trying Bios 1.32 (mod) !

For now, I have locked everything in at a slightly faster-than before 4.25MHz / all c on my 2950X @ 1.325v fixed setting and LLC1...noticed in HWInfo that it will droop to 1.275-1.28x v under load - I take it that's normal on the MSI Meg Creation on LLC1 ?

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- Improve memory compatibility.

I think this is one of the major changes

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ROG Zenith Extreme Alpha



Very beautiful new board, which replaced the Zenith Extreme. Key features include a huge radiator and two tiny fans that cool the VRM.

T-Topology of the board will not allow to get records in overclocking the RAM. The claimed 3600mhz correspond to the dual-channel mode (not quad) only 2950X and 2920X. 3466mhz dual-channel mode on 2970WX and 2990WX. In quad mode 3466-3533mhz for 2920X/2950X and 3400-3333mhz for 2970WX/2990WX.
Another condition to get these frequencies, single rank memory. Of course Samsung b-die.

On the technical side, power system has not changed (8 true phases , same 10K Black Metallic Capacitors , Infineon IR3555M, 60A ), it is not able to provide decent overclocking for 2970WX and 2990WX.
The high density of placement of the mosphets will not allow you to get a theoretical 480A, the maximum for which you can expect is 240-300A.
3.9-4.0 for 2990WX this is its maximum if the ambient temperature in the case does not exceed 30-35 degrees.

The price (630$) does not match the possibilities.

Beautiful pictures and specifications you can see here >> https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards...-Extreme-Alpha

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Thanks for the overview. There last bit about 3.9-4.0 hit home because, I can't clock higher than that.

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- Improve memory compatibility.

I think this is one of the major changes

...Thanks, I think > I'm not sure if ^ this refers to my post and whether I understand what you mean re. improving memory comparability . I have two kits available, but they're both TridentZ 3866 nominal and so far, the results make me quite happy, but if there's room for improvement with these given RAM sets, I'm all for it.

Also wondering about the VDroop, I referenced above.
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Thanks for the overview. There last bit about 3.9-4.0 hit home because, I can't clock higher than that.

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I completely understand! I had originally purchased the Gigabyte Arous Xtreme X399 and had buyer's remorse when I watched
and saw it was one of the first to fail! I returned it and bought the MSI X399 Meg Creation, never looked back.

I want to hit 4.2-4.4GHz, so the overkill power delivery system intrigued me. I just bought an additional 1.5 HP chiller to my .5 chiller to make it more comfortable to raise the voltages that high. If anyone's hit 4.2 on a stable setup, let me know.

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...Thanks, I think > I'm not sure if ^ this refers to my post and whether I understand what you mean re. improving memory comparability . I have two kits available, but they're both TridentZ 3866 nominal and so far, the results make me quite happy, but if there's room for improvement with these given RAM sets, I'm all for it.

Also wondering about the VDroop, I referenced above.

To the regards of voltages, one of the things I found extremely disconcerting is that sometimes I would change the voltage offset to +0.0250 and see it go up +0.2 instead. It really freaked me out because I had set a 1.425 manual, added this offset and saw my voltages at 1.68!! This was on the BIOS it got shipped with (1.20 | ~11/8/2018) I just updated to 1usmus, and will see...

Quote: Originally Posted by J7SC View Post
I'm looking forward to trying Bios 1.32 (mod) !

For now, I have locked everything in at a slightly faster-than before 4.25MHz / all c on my 2950X @ 1.325v fixed setting and LLC1...noticed in HWInfo that it will droop to 1.275-1.28x v under load - I take it that's normal on the MSI Meg Creation on LLC1 ?.
To answer your question, yes I believe that is perhaps a design flaw but I have similar results on modes 1 and 2 (upward LLC). Programs like HWInfo are very inaccurate to measure voltage as they simply follow a chart; think of VID is what the CPU is asking for, not what it is getting.

I recommend that you download MSI Command Center> Settings > Record > Then Click "Play". I found the voltage read outs there to be most accurate to what is actually being supplied.

Prior to this I was merrily running 1.68 volts for short periods of time because HWiNFO told me it was only taking 1.45....

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Here is an example below: (4.0 All Core | 1.3 Volts)


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