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post #931 of 1002 (permalink) Old 09-04-2019, 02:18 PM
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Intel is launching cascade lake X. They say that it will have better performance per dollar than the current threadripper.

Will threadripper 3 be able to compete with cascade X?
What do you think?

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Intel is launching cascade lake X. They say that it will have better performance per dollar than the current threadripper.

Will threadripper 3 be able to compete with cascade X?
What do you think?
No. Not on a performance level. The slides shown are only comparing price per performance on the older Threadripper products. The chatter is they might win this comparison because Intel might be massively dropping the price of the new cpus to be more competitive against AMD. And the slides were using a comparison on content creation apps which all depend on high clock rates which Intel undeniably wins.

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Intel is launching cascade lake X. They say that it will have better performance per dollar than the current threadripper.

Will threadripper 3 be able to compete with cascade X?
What do you think?
No. Not on a performance level. The slides shown are only comparing price per performance on the older Threadripper products. The chatter is they might win this comparison because Intel might be massively dropping the price of the new cpus to be more competitive against AMD. And the slides were using a comparison on content creation apps which all depend on high clock rates which Intel undeniably wins.
I hope so because this time I really want to buy an AMD CPU. So long since my last AMD Athlon XP1800+...

... but I don't think that intel "will play the looser" by only cutting the price.
Best Intel HEDT CPU is now around 1800 dollars, it is not possible that they will reduce this price. Never seen a reduction in price on this market from Intel.

Probably they will put more cores and more mhz at the same price and this can be a problem for TR3.

Who will live will see but can't wait to get more infos

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I hope so because this time I really want to buy an AMD CPU. So long since my last AMD Athlon XP1800+...

... but I don't think that intel "will play the looser" by only cutting the price.
Best Intel HEDT CPU is now around 1800 dollars, it is not possible that they will reduce this price. Never seen a reduction in price on this market from Intel.

Probably they will put more cores and more mhz at the same price and this can be a problem for TR3.

Who will live will see but can't wait to get more infos
The comments are that is unlikely. Cascade Lake-X is still on the old 14nm process. They just can't keep cramming cores on the limited die space at that feature size.

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The comments are that is unlikely. Cascade Lake-X is still on the old 14nm process. They just can't keep cramming cores on the limited die space at that feature size.
I know that is always bad to be a fanboy, I'm too old to be a fanboy but I'm very glad for AMD, he deserves it and we all need some competition to not die with 14++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

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A possibility for sure. @1usmus would likely know more.
Hey. Unfortunately there is not very good news, AMD has changed its mind about making X399 compatible with the new generation.
For this reason, HEDT disappeared from all calendars and the release of these processors was forced to postpone.

Since the new processor has a new memory controller and he in a single copy (instead of two as before) had to seriously change the pins. Also, the new PCI Gen 4 standard and new power pins made a special contribution.

TRX40 and TRX80 are a new generation and a new architecture. Nothing to do with the past generation.

At the moment, all information is classified and I do not have access to it.
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Hey. Unfortunately there is not very good news, AMD has changed its mind about making X399 compatible with the new generation.
For this reason, HEDT disappeared from all calendars and the release of these processors was forced to postpone.

Since the new processor has a new memory controller and he in a single copy (instead of two as before) had to seriously change the pins. Also, the new PCI Gen 4 standard and new power pins made a special contribution.

TRX40 and TRX80 are a new generation and a new architecture. Nothing to do with the past generation.

At the moment, all information is classified and I do not have access to it.
How does WRX80 play in the market then?
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Hey. Unfortunately there is not very good news, AMD has changed its mind about making X399 compatible with the new generation.
For this reason, HEDT disappeared from all calendars and the release of these processors was forced to postpone.

Since the new processor has a new memory controller and he in a single copy (instead of two as before) had to seriously change the pins. Also, the new PCI Gen 4 standard and new power pins made a special contribution.

TRX40 and TRX80 are a new generation and a new architecture. Nothing to do with the past generation.

At the moment, all information is classified and I do not have access to it.
Wow, thanks for the bad news. Didn't see that one coming at all. I thought the new chiplet Threadrippers would be compatible with X399.

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Hey. Unfortunately there is not very good news, AMD has changed its mind about making X399 compatible with the new generation.
For this reason, HEDT disappeared from all calendars and the release of these processors was forced to postpone.

Since the new processor has a new memory controller and he in a single copy (instead of two as before) had to seriously change the pins. Also, the new PCI Gen 4 standard and new power pins made a special contribution.

TRX40 and TRX80 are a new generation and a new architecture. Nothing to do with the past generation.

At the moment, all information is classified and I do not have access to it.
Sooo, to the best of your knowledge - any point in waiting for TR gen3 on x399 platform? is it completely scrapped and we'd need to get a new mobo along the new CPU?
Would it be wise to just jump on to R9 3950x then and salvage 2990wx while it's still sells at decent prices?
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Hey. Unfortunately there is not very good news, AMD has changed its mind about making X399 compatible with the new generation.
For this reason, HEDT disappeared from all calendars and the release of these processors was forced to postpone.

Since the new processor has a new memory controller and he in a single copy (instead of two as before) had to seriously change the pins. Also, the new PCI Gen 4 standard and new power pins made a special contribution.

TRX40 and TRX80 are a new generation and a new architecture. Nothing to do with the past generation.

At the moment, all information is classified and I do not have access to it.[IMG class=inlineimg]/forum/images/smilies/thinking.gif[/IMG]
Sooo, to the best of your knowledge - any point in waiting for TR gen3 on x399 platform? is it completely scrapped and we'd need to get a new mobo along the new CPU?
Would it be wise to just jump on to R9 3950x then and salvage 2990wx while it's still sells at decent prices?
2990WX Is a really focused CPU, I expect great jump in performance from TR2 and TR3.
I would call 2990wx a problematic cpu more than a focused one, there are really too much scenarios when it is too weak. Those problems should be solved on tr3.

Even 3950X will be faster than 2990WX on many many scenarios.

I am waiting 16 cores threadripper, they must have some surprise for us to justify a 16 cores threadripper now that 3950X is reality.

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