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post #1 of 10 (permalink) Old 02-03-2019, 01:55 PM - Thread Starter
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x6 1055T or X4-960T unlock

im looking into buying a new proc for my rig and wondering if i should get the regular x6 1055T or to get x4 960T and unlock it to x6 1065T
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Do you know the 960T unlocks to an X6? Then get the cheaper of the two. If you don't, then get the 1055T and OC. Not all 960Ts unlock and the only difference between the 1055T and 1065T is the default frequencies. Both have unlocked multipliers and OC about the same.

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ill rather get 1055T then since its like 12$ more and oc it thanks alot for a quick response
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The 1055T does not have a unlocked multi. But regardless overclocks great on the CPU reference bus. Depending on the board you can get 280 to 300.

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You're right, no unlocked multiplier on the 1055T. Thought the 1055T was a BE but apparently it's not.

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Quote: Originally Posted by iNanox View Post
im looking into buying a new proc for my rig and wondering if i should get the regular x6 1055T or to get x4 960T and unlock it to x6 1065T
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I have had four 960T's and two unlocked to six good cores and one had five good cores and one only four good cores. You could also look at an 840T or basically and any Athlons with a "GR" at the end unlock L3 and cores. TBH your best bet is a real six core because Hardware Monitor doesn't work properly with unlocked cores and your temps and stuff are then a crap shoot.

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Get the 1055T and FSB overclock and break 4ghz EASILY. My 1045T will do 4.05ghz core @300 fsb and that would also raise the CPU-NB (thats the memory controller on AMD) to 3ghz which is where phenom II's get most of their performance boost from. Drop HT link back to 2ghz. All done on air-cooling. These chips rip.

For instance; I wouldn't buy a 4cylinder car and hope I can unlock 2 more cylinders that don't exist when I'm expecting 6 to be there - I'm going with the 6 cylinder platform and pumping it up because its capable of more. Why those x4's were sold as 960Ts and not 965's/etc was because AMD had bad runs on the x6 wafers and salvaged what they could by laser-cutting out inferior sections of the wafer that didn't meet the specs they promised in order to not be at a complete loss with no return on investment. The 1045/1055s also were targeted towards the lower TDP market at 95W so they have slightly better resistance voltage-leakage and go a lot farther Mhz on less Voltage than the older Denebs could. Not saying 960Ts are bad but they're only guaranteed to be at least x4 and even if you get one to unlock the extra cores will likely cause an instability when pushing other parts of the chip, such as the IMC/cpu-nb, beyond AMD's original specs which is exactly why they're marketed as X4's and not X6s.

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One other caveat with unlocking chips - Even if the chip unlocks you may still have a core that doesn't work (5 cores only) or if it does unlock fully to 6 cores, is not fully stable across all 6 of them.
Have a 960T that although it does unlock fully to 6 cores one of them is wonky at times so it has to be defective in some way.

The 1055T is the chip to get if needing 6 cores between the two chips mentioned.
Good thing about a 960T though is the unlock success rate is above 50%, more like 70% to get at least one extra core going.

The chance of any random 960T to unlock cores isn't bad but getting them unlocked and then what gets unlocked being useable or not is another thing.

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Quote: Originally Posted by Overkill View Post
Get the 1055T and FSB overclock and break 4ghz EASILY. My 1045T will do 4.05ghz core @300 fsb and that would also raise the CPU-NB (thats the memory controller on AMD) to 3ghz which is where phenom II's get most of their performance boost from. Drop HT link back to 2ghz. All done on air-cooling. These chips rip.

For instance; I wouldn't buy a 4cylinder car and hope I can unlock 2 more cylinders that don't exist when I'm expecting 6 to be there - I'm going with the 6 cylinder platform and pumping it up because its capable of more. Why those x4's were sold as 960Ts and not 965's/etc was because AMD had bad runs on the x6 wafers and salvaged what they could by laser-cutting out inferior sections of the wafer that didn't meet the specs they promised in order to not be at a complete loss with no return on investment. The 1045/1055s also were targeted towards the lower TDP market at 95W so they have slightly better resistance voltage-leakage and go a lot farther Mhz on less Voltage than the older Denebs could. Not saying 960Ts are bad but they're only guaranteed to be at least x4 and even if you get one to unlock the extra cores will likely cause an instability when pushing other parts of the chip, such as the IMC/cpu-nb, beyond AMD's original specs which is exactly why they're marketed as X4's and not X6s.
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