Hello, especially to the glorious "old guard of AMD" (@cssOrkinman,
, superstition and pardon to those i don't remember), which i think i saw still hanging around. It is probably not the wisest time to upgrade (i read about Ryzen 3000), but, i got a bit of upgraditis, a bit of tiresome USB bugs from Gigabyte 970 and also, not knowing what the future holds for Win7 support in B550 motherboards, i bit the bullet to pass to a 2600 build. I was torn between the 2600 and a 1700 (only 10 euro difference), but at the end, i went 2600 for the better memory support and for the higher clocks (i want to stay at stock 65W and practically the 2600 i found it performs like a Zen 1st gen @3.6Ghz). Also, wanting to keep stock speeds, i figure it's better to have higher single core performance, than another "FX", where i won't be really using 8c/16T. Even my video encoding days are over and i will keep FX rigs for that eventuality anyway, so the main rig will be for internet, films, music, "Sunday retro-gaming", so i guess the 2600 was more suited. To be honest the main reason, is i want native USB3, so that i can break free from the odd Gigabyte BIOS bugs and secondarily, to get an uplift in single core. To be honest i feel almost guilty because the FX has served me so well and i am nitpicking, like when i see a single core hit 100% and i think "oh, i could boost that". And that's pretty much the excuse for the upgrade. So i read that Ryzen 2600 is + 48% single core and +95% multicore, which is more than enough for me. When Zen4 goes EOL, i will probably grab an 8 core and be done with it.
So, the parts, will be:
- Ryzen 2600 (65W, a relief from FX's heat generation).
- MSI B450 Gaming Plus (i really wanted mATX, but they all have just 3 fan headers and in inconvenient places too, except for Asrock, which though uses 3 phases doubled and Nikos mosfets, which was enough for me to pass, so i went full ATX, and MSI seems the one with best RAM compatibility on reasonably priced RAM. Reasonably being a euphemism, but anyway).
- Corsair 2x8GB 3000C15 (the MSI board's QVL actually supports 4 DIMMs, more reason to get the combination!).
- Windows 7 (yeah, yeah, spare me the lecture)
The bad thing is they will need a week to arrive...
I have some questions:
1) I read Ryzen Master doesn't work on Windows 7. Is that a real problem for someone who wishes to stay at stock speeds? I mean, i don't know what exactly you can see, but i doubt it's something critical, right?
2) I am slipstreaming a Win7 DVD with Windows updates minus telemetry and with AMD USB drivers as we speak, but MSI's page says "Microsoft Win7 Hotfix installation is required for AMD Chipset Driver to be installed successfully." Any knows which exactly is this hotfix? I hope it's not telemetry...
3) I read MSI B450 have the best VRM (4 phase but with good heatsinks), but i also read of few people mentioning of very high stock voltage. I remember the same from FX days. Is this the "usual" behaviour in MSI B450? If so, is manually undervolting possible? If you undervolt, do you still keep the power savings? Ideally, i wouldn't want to undervolt and mess with all that at all, but if they shoot 1.45v for no reason, i will probably have to.
4) Is there a core unparking utility for Win7 like it was for FX or is it not needed for Ryzen?
5) Is the MSI B450 Bios stable for stock use or are there "known bugs" (i have to ask, since i come from Gigabyte 970 and i am used to quirks from that).
6) What are the safe package and core temperatures for Ryzen 2600? (i mean the equivalent of 70C core for FX).
7) Luckily, all my AMD coolers clipped to the standard AMD brackets, so i suppose they will all be compatible with AM4 (i have available Scythe Katana3, Xigmatek Balder and Alpenfohn Sella, but i think i will use the Katana3 , because it shoots some air towards the VRM too). I 've seen only photo of the stock AMD cooler and i don't think it's better than any of the above, right? So that i won't waste time trying different coolers.
Anything else weird i should know about Ryzen 2600 on Windows 7? (I know about "wufuc").
I am just trying to cover everything i can think of beforehand, so that i can have a system up and running ASAP.
Thank you in advance.