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post #41 of 48 (permalink) Old 03-20-2019, 08:51 AM
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That stock cpu cooler is pulling cool air in the center and blowing hot air onto the motherboard and heat sinks. A vertical cooler will get the hot exhaust air up away from the heat sinks.


The Gammax 400 is inexpensive and also clamps onto the stock mounting brackets. DEEPCOOL GAMMAXX 400-CPU Cooler 4 Heatpipes 120mm PWM Fan with Blue LED Easy installation (AM4 compatible) - Newegg.com

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post #42 of 48 (permalink) Old 03-22-2019, 10:22 PM - Thread Starter
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Quote: Originally Posted by miklkit View Post
That stock cpu cooler is pulling cool air in the center and blowing hot air onto the motherboard and heat sinks. A vertical cooler will get the hot exhaust air up away from the heat sinks.


The Gammax 400 is inexpensive and also clamps onto the stock mounting brackets. DEEPCOOL GAMMAXX 400-CPU Cooler 4 Heatpipes 120mm PWM Fan with Blue LED Easy installation (AM4 compatible) - Newegg.com
Just ordered a closed circuit AIO for around $48. I already knew this had to be the issue and it wasn't overheating. I just replaced all my thermal paste/pads. Which btw, Do not get ICDiamond if you haven't, it's by far the worst paste IMO. Super thick and it took around 4 months of use to become dry etc. Not to mention it was like $12 for 1 gram. I bought some Arctic MX-4 for $8-4grams, which is a lot more liquidy so not only easier to apply, but I doubt it's going to dry out like that crap did.

So I replaced the pad on the longer heatsink next to the CPU. I don't think I needed to, but I did anyway. The other two heatsinks were clearly dried up (not that replacing it impacted it a lot). I had to scrape the original thermal pad residue off because it was so dry I couldn't just wipe it off, used thermal paste instead. My GPU wasn't really suffering with the paste, replaced it anyway and one of the thermal pads were completely shot.

My CPU temps went down around 5-7c, GPU temps were roughly the same but my FPS increased by 12, giving me 300 more points on Heaven. My motherboard, the two lower temps got a few c lower but the one next to the CPU is getting the same temp, but I THINK it improved. I'll have to overclock further and do a test again and see if I don't hit over 90c with it again. Either way, I shouldn't have that issue anymore once I get the AIO.

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IC Diamond 7 is actually a good paste.


Many online sellers tend to sell old stuff that has been sitting forever, causing it to dry out and seperate. I usually run warm water over any tube of thermal paste I get online, else I simply grab the thermaltake TG-7 from bestbuy.


I have personally seen temp differences of over 15*C under full load between online as is paste, and running warm water over it prior.


Of course, the longest I have ever used a certain paste application is under a year. Im not a fan of letting things go forever without cleaning
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Turns out the heatsink I had was keeping the VRM cooler. It was 86 now it's 99c, without overclocking the northbridge or using it. I got a radiator which is keeping the CPU cooler, this is clearly a garbage heatsink if it can't stand alone. As far as the IC Diamond goes, I heated up water to near boiling, let it sit in there for 2 minutes and it literally was thinner for a single application then hardened again. As in MAYBE a pea size. I was putting it on a laptop and there were about 10 spots to add it to.

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Turns out the heatsink I had was keeping the VRM cooler. It was 86 now it's 99c, without overclocking the northbridge or using it. I got a radiator which is keeping the CPU cooler, this is clearly a garbage heatsink if it can't stand alone. As far as the IC Diamond goes, I heated up water to near boiling, let it sit in there for 2 minutes and it literally was thinner for a single application then hardened again. As in MAYBE a pea size. I was putting it on a laptop and there were about 10 spots to add it to.
The airflow from your stock down draft cooler was keeping the heatsink cooler - you won't have that with a CLC.
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It's fine. It only happens with prime95 so I won't be running that anymore until I can do something about the heat being generated. So I bumped my CPU to 4,840 mhz and it ran stable on 3DMark Fire Strike. What I'd like to know is how someone got 23,000 on their GPU when they have one identical to mine, theirs is at stock settings, while I got 14,167 with it overclocked to the max. I ran it on Heaven and it was clearly impacting my FPS. Running stock on that I get around 80 FPS, overclocked I get 112 FPS. My only guess is they are fully water cooled.

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I think your result with warming up the IC7 kinda proves it was old shelf stock. oh well. You can never be able to judge shelf life of things bought online.




I have a fan that sits on top of the backplate of my video card, and I point it at the VRM's. With an AIO, it gives you 2 perfect hoses to ziptie one corner of the fan so it doesnt fall off.


Even on my Asus motherboard with a beefy working heatsink, the VRMs responded to the fans airflow by dropping over 10*C, though they have never gone above 65*C before. I think my VRM heatsink is more effective than many stock cpu coolers lol.
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Just ordered a closed circuit AIO for around $48. I already knew this had to be the issue and it wasn't overheating. I just replaced all my thermal paste/pads. Which btw, Do not get ICDiamond if you haven't, it's by far the worst paste IMO. Super thick and it took around 4 months of use to become dry etc. Not to mention it was like $12 for 1 gram. I bought some Arctic MX-4 for $8-4grams, which is a lot more liquidy so not only easier to apply, but I doubt it's going to dry out like that crap did.

So I replaced the pad on the longer heatsink next to the CPU. I don't think I needed to, but I did anyway. The other two heatsinks were clearly dried up (not that replacing it impacted it a lot). I had to scrape the original thermal pad residue off because it was so dry I couldn't just wipe it off, used thermal paste instead. My GPU wasn't really suffering with the paste, replaced it anyway and one of the thermal pads were completely shot.

My CPU temps went down around 5-7c, GPU temps were roughly the same but my FPS increased by 12, giving me 300 more points on Heaven. My motherboard, the two lower temps got a few c lower but the one next to the CPU is getting the same temp, but I THINK it improved. I'll have to overclock further and do a test again and see if I don't hit over 90c with it again. Either way, I shouldn't have that issue anymore once I get the AIO.
120mm AIO I assume for $48? Try the radiator in the top front position, exhausting out top of case. Reinstall the rear 120mm fan.

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