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post #21 of 304 (permalink) Old 05-01-2019, 07:13 PM
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Coming from a wealth of time with AMD FX, it is not worth the extra 100-200mhz you are going for.


Drop cpu multi to 20, and save some heat and voltage.


Your clock frequency drops are likely directly due to VRM's that are not happy with the power draw or temp.


Remember, the cpu socket bleeds off a TON of heat throughout the motherboard.


I personally ran 4k with a 1080 TI, and the setup did pretty well, mostly because of running ram beyond 2400mhz and northbridge beyond 2800mhz.


Whenever I have ram set to 2133mhz or slower, and northbridge at or slower than 2600mhz, the entire computer feels very sluggish and pathetic, after having it running near-maxxed out for so long.


Even my X99 setup with its 5930K can beat it at stock clocks and making use of the X99's quad channel memory, even at JEDEC 2133mhz.




If you intend to maintain the FX rig, find a way to keep the VRM's and northbridge as cool as possible, and crank the **** out of the IMC/northbridge speed. 2800mhz is great, but FX gets another speed boost if you can hit 2900+Mhz. It takes a butt ton of voltage though, so use it sparingly, as I have personally killed an old 8120 very recently while trying to crap out some high numbers. I did manage 5.2ghz on it though, with an FSB/ref clock of over 350mhz
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Why the hell did you pair 2080Ti with FX xD. Even in 4k it doesn't perform at even 60% of it's possibilities with your CPU, regardless if you see below 98% of GPU usage or not. Under no circumstances add a 2nd GPU to your current rig. Upgrading cooling is also a wasted money, just use it at 5GHz (100MHz changes nothing) till Ryzen 2 comes out, sell it and get new CPU.


Also, even when overclocked the **** out of it, FX 8350 is nowhere near 4770k performance.

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Quote: Originally Posted by KingUniverse View Post
At 1440p, or god forbid 1080p, certainly, but at 4K Ultra (What I game at), my 2080 Ti is pegged at 100% and CPU isn't anywhere near 100
Someone posted this vid in another thread


But can it run.... Angry Birds???

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I don't know what kind of drugs are being done in here to think that a Bulldozer would match a Haswell regardless of the clock speed. Especially in gaming. The 8350 was a complete dog.

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Quote: Originally Posted by diggiddi View Post
Someone posted this vid in another thread

https://youtu.be/yo1US_MGyi0
And that was probably a quick and dirty multi OC with nothing else really done. You'll get an extra 10% at least from memory and IMC OC and the another 4-6% by jumping the 200MHz up to 5GHz. So even in that situation there was probably another 15% on the table. (10% if he stuck with the noctua cooler.)

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Quote: Originally Posted by ttnuagmada View Post
I don't know what kind of drugs are being done in here to think that a Bulldozer would match a Haswell regardless of the clock speed. Especially in gaming. The 8350 was a complete dog.
With only 390 posts on OCN I can understand you wouldn't know any better. But in the hands of those who know what they doing. 83xx could hang on to a 4ish GHz hazzy and about a 4.2 Ivy. Obviously those chips could go much further. Delidding and stuff Ivy and Haswell could also get right on the 5GHz mark. But that's the whole joy of buying a cheap processor and OC'ing, it. To make it perform on the same level as a more expensive chip. And at the time I got mine my 8350 was half the price of a 3770 and about 20%-25% cheaper than 3570. And in a lot of situations I was beating them at stock. Not bad for a much cheaper processor. Obviously they could close the gap and overtake again when they turned on their afterburners. But the fact that my cheap chip could hang with a more expensive processor. And can still push my V64 with not a really noticeable disadvantage. Is very impressive for a 6 year old cheap as chips processor.

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Quote: Originally Posted by diggiddi View Post
Someone posted this vid in another thread

https://youtu.be/yo1US_MGyi0
WRT that video the 0.1% framerate differences were amazing -- sometimes up above 200%. It would've been interesting to see how consistent the framerate was on the 8350 vs. the Threadripper.

It makes me wonder how badly my 5820k is bottlenecking my 1080Ti.
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Quote: Originally Posted by Alastair View Post
And that was probably a quick and dirty multi OC with nothing else really done. You'll get an extra 10% at least from memory and IMC OC and the another 4-6% by jumping the 200MHz up to 5GHz. So even in that situation there was probably another 15% on the table. (10% if he stuck with the noctua cooler.)

So still very good in 2019.
Is it possible to get DDR3-2666 memory to work on the 8350?

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...9SIAD6H6KZ5894
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WRT that video the 0.1% framerate differences were amazing -- sometimes up above 200%. It would've been interesting to see how consistent the framerate was on the 8350 vs. the Threadripper.

It makes me wonder how badly my 5820k is bottlenecking my 1080Ti.
The 0.1% lows can be solved quite a bit by overclocking the memory subsystem. IMC and ram. Something I am sure Timmy Joe did not have the patience to do for a quick video about old parts in XYZ year. Frame times get a lot more consistent with ram @ 2133 or above and IMC @2600 or above and HTT bus @300 0 or more. Becomes a whole lot better.

The thing that everyone thinks is core is King. And it is. But the King can't run a kingdom effectively on his own. And with its slow L3 cache having memory that wasn't that wasn't slow helps a hecking load.

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Is it possible to get DDR3-2933 memory to work on the 8350?

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...9SIA7S68X69696
No. I know cssorkinman got a little over 2400 on his for 24/7 but not much more. Officially FX can only support 1866. Officially. But the attractive thing about getting a high speed kit is downvlocking or to say 2400 and getting those timings down. 2400 at cas 8 or 7 looks really attractive to me. And I am getting a used kit of Kingston Predator 2666 cl11 to experiment with. It was cheap so whatever. More parts to play with = more fun!

Edit: just checked Cssorkinman got a set of Averxir Blitz (single sided Hynix MFR kit) to 2600ish on his FX.

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