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post #1 of 10 (permalink) Old 05-02-2019, 02:10 AM - Thread Starter
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Please help me with overclocking Ryzen 7 1800x / B350-F

Hello,

please help someone with overclocking? I'm a newcomer to the new AMD CPUs. In my youth I timed in big (in those tiem, the CPU clockw was only about 100-400 MHz). But nowadays I have a problem with overclocking. I don't the new Ryzen CPU at all.

I've tried in BIOS to change the CPU ratio to 38.5x (from the default/auto ratio - i.e. 36x), the only one being stable and functional. If I use 39.0x, the CPU sometimes freezes and if I use 40.0x or more, the CPU freezes very often. I tried to raise Vcore but I don't know how to raise it. I've read a few tutorials, but I haven't done anything.

CPU cooler which I own is a massive aluminum with FAN. It is a quality and very large cooler. So with a higher CPU temperature, there would be no problem if a high CPU overclocking rate was reached.

I would like to achieve at least 4200-4300 MHz, with the ability to dynamically change both the frequency and volts in the CPU, to save energy and reduce heat in idle mode. I play games only occasionally. Rather, I use a PC for computational performance and rendering (SONY Vegas Studio).

How do I get at least 41.0x CPU ratio instead of the current 38x - 38.5x?

In my opinion the biggest problem is caused by my RAM modules. It's quite a problem to update them.

Does anyone already have a timing profile stored in a BIOS file that he would send me?

MoBo:
ASUS ROG STRIX B350-F GAMING
- BIOS ver .: 4602

CPU:
AMD Ryzen 7 1800X
- cooler: Noctua NH D15

VGA:
AMD Radeon R9 270X
- cooler: Accelero Twin Turbo II

DDR4:
Kingston KHX2666C16 / 8G (8GB x2)
"HyperX 16GB KIT DDR4 2666MHz CL16 Fury Black Series"
- current timing (tCAS-tRCD-tRP-tRAS): 16-18-18-39


PSU:
Corsair RM750i



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I'll try but if something goes wrong, please don't blame me.

First of all, I have the same motherboard and imho, it is not meant to oc an 8-core cpu, I did oc my R7 2700 to 4GHz with but only used for benching. You can try 4GHz but i doubt you'll get any higher.

Secondly, you need a good cooler like a Noctua DH-15 or a H100i AIO cooler. At idle using HWINFO64, your CPU temp at stock should be around 35-36c. Lower the better. At load, say using IBT, your temp should not exceed 50c (lower is better) at stock. If it does, then you won't have room to cool an oc'ed 1800X. Ambient temp will play a big role. You normally want to set an oc during warmer periods.

On the first SS (disregard the RAM settings), the CPU Core Ratio in your case would be 40 , which you already know. Scroll down and you to set CPU voltage to OFFSET MODE/+and add an amount to the base value of 1.237v making sure you do not exceed 1.42v. In that example, 1.237 + 0.1625 = 1.4v approx.


The second SS, you have to adjust LLC value to High under AI tweaker/ DIGI+VRM. Try High first and see if it works.

Save changes and boot. If it boots, open HWINFO64 and check your temps. Run some benches such as CPUZ bench, Cinebench 15 or 20.

In order to save energy, set Windows Power Plan to Balance and under Advance Power Options set Minimum Processor State to around 25%.

Try to do some work. GL!
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BTW, the B350F, with a bios update, will accommodate a Ryzen 3000 cpu. Then, you don't need to oc. Stick with an 8-core. I don't think a 12-core will be appropriate for this motherboard.

As for the RAM, sell what you have and get some B-dies.

https://benzhaomin.github.io/bdiefinder/

Got some G.Skill FlareX 3200 CL14 and gives me no drama.

Either of these RAMs:

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ....+Skill+FlareX

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...-217-_-Product

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What PSU do you have in your system and yes that matters if you are overclocking
And the H100i is not a good cooler by the way

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Quote: Originally Posted by shilka View Post
What PSU do you have in your system and yes that matters if you are overclocking
And the H100i is not a good cooler by the way
I missed it. Op, already has one of the best air cooler. What's a good alternative to the H100i? The Enermax, Swiftech, or other CoolerMaster AIO? An AIO that does not cost as much as custom cooling.

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Quote: Originally Posted by rdr09 View Post
I missed it. Op, already has one of the best air cooler. What's a good alternative to the H100i? The Enermax, Swiftech, or other CoolerMaster AIO? An AIO that does not cost as much as custom cooling.
None of the CLC coolers are worth buying
https://www.overclock.net/forum/61-w...lc-cooler.html


The NH-U12A is cheaper more quiet and has better temps than any of the CLC coolers its compared to

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Intel Core I7 6850K
Motherboard
Gigabyte X99 Ultra Gaming
GPU
EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2
RAM
Kingston HyperX DDR4 Savage 3000 MHz
Hard Drive
Samsung 840 Evo 500 GB
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Hard Drive
Seagate Ironwolf Pro 8 TB
Hard Drive
Seagate Ironwolf 12 TB
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Seagate Ironwolf Pro 10 TB
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Seagate Ironwolf Pro 12 TB
Hard Drive
WD Ultrastar DC HC530 14 TB
Optical Drive
LG CH12NS30
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EVGA SuperNova G2 750 watt
Cooling
x5 Noctua NF-A14 FLX
Cooling
Noctua NH-D15S
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Phanteks Enthoo Luxe Tempered Glass
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Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit
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Quote: Originally Posted by shilka View Post
None of the CLC coolers are worth buying
https://www.overclock.net/forum/61-w...lc-cooler.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23vjWtUpItk


The NH-U12A is cheaper more quiet and has better temps than any of the CLC coolers its compared to
What? Not even the Swiftech? That air cooler is indeed very well made and cools satisfactorily. Using it right now. It only comes with one fan.

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What? Not even the Swiftech? That air cooler is indeed very well made and cools satisfactorily. Using it right now. It only comes with one fan.
Swiftech dont make CLC coolers CLC stands for closed liquid cooler and none of Swiftech coolers are closed as far as i am aware they are open so they would be OLC or open liquid cooler
AIO stands for all in one and all CLC coolers are AIO but not all AIO are CLC

By saying CLC and not AIO i was being specific
As for the NH-U12S that only comes with one fan but the new NH-U12A comes with two fans which are brand new fans

Seravee
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Intel Core I7 6850K
Motherboard
Gigabyte X99 Ultra Gaming
GPU
EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2
RAM
Kingston HyperX DDR4 Savage 3000 MHz
Hard Drive
Samsung 840 Evo 500 GB
Hard Drive
Samsung 860 Evo 1 TB
Hard Drive
Seagate Ironwolf Pro 8 TB
Hard Drive
Seagate Ironwolf 12 TB
Hard Drive
Seagate Ironwolf Pro 10 TB
Hard Drive
Seagate Ironwolf Pro 12 TB
Hard Drive
WD Ultrastar DC HC530 14 TB
Optical Drive
LG CH12NS30
Power Supply
EVGA SuperNova G2 750 watt
Cooling
x5 Noctua NF-A14 FLX
Cooling
Noctua NH-D15S
Case
Phanteks Enthoo Luxe Tempered Glass
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Swiftech dont make CLC coolers CLC stands for closed liquid cooler and none of Swiftech coolers are closed as far as a am aware they are open so they would be OLC or open liquid cooler
AIO stands for all in one and all CLC coolers are AIO but not all AIO are CLC

By saying CLC and not AIO i was being specific
As for the NH-U12S that only comes with one fan but the new NH-U12A comes with two fans which are brand new fans
+rep. Thank you.

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Hello.


Sorry I haven't been here long. But I also waited long enough to approve my first question for discussion .


Thank you all for your advice. I'll try. I probably buy better RAM DDR4 modules with good overclock support - G.SKILL 16 GB KIT DDR4 3200 MHz CL14 Flare X for AMD.

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