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post #131 of 171 (permalink) Old 06-12-2019, 10:32 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted by Grin View Post
“How do you know it's gonna be bad?”

Based on my previous experience with 1700 which I bought on the spring of 2017 together with Asus x370 prime pro. I got segfault, unstable ECC and lot of other fun. Than I bought 2700x and got another portion including overheating of VRMs. No more beta products from AMD.
you say Asus x370 prime pro. this has nothing to do with c6h

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3950X 16 Cores/32 Thread on a X470 - GeekBench v4

https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/13495867
AMD Ryzen 9 3950X Beats $2,000 Intel Core i9-9980XE In Geekbench Test
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/am...nch,39640.html

And they failed to mention it was done on a X470
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Quote: Originally Posted by AlphaC View Post
C6H was using 8x TI NexFETs (40A Dual-N Fet) , same as Taichi but Taichi had 12 of them
Ahh thanks for the clarification. Still should be okay-ish for a 3900x as long as you don't go to crazy with it. Would rather have an Impact . . .

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It was until I started using UEFI revs past 3.30. Bleh! Still had the best VRM config, though.

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Asus dropped whole support for AMD, even bioses for new X399 platforms are complete garbage.
First I'm hearing of that. That's bad news. Asus did a great job with C6H for quite some time, despite early boards bricking themselves and all that madness.

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I predict same issues for new Ryzen kids. Better go with Asrock or MSI (as HEPC)
Based on the VRM configs, it looks like Gigabyte has some real winners on their hands.

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No, 105W TDP tells you that under certain workload processor dissipates that much, which means lowest clock. But fire prime95 and you will get probably 180W no problem on lowest clock.
Unless you have some feature like PBO and/or XFR working that permits the processor to violate its TDP limits, I don't think you're correct. Deprived of those features, a 2700x will stay @ 105W pretty faithfully, while a 2700 will stick to 65W.

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no need. c6h says enough. elmor
Yeah, no surprise there.

Watch this space for future . . . uh . . . stuff! Yeah. That.
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What changed the third generation Ryzen and the Radeon RX 5700 from the previous generation [Overview]

https://news.mynavi.jp/article/20190614-843285/
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woovv... a lot of money
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woovv... a lot of money
No, its a very reasonably price.


Want to know what's a lot of money?

Check Intel 16 cores cpu price. And that Intel cpu is slower and with higher power consuption.

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MADE MY CHOICE

"It would also make sense that AMD wants healthier margins; after three generations of Zen and Ryzen, AMD isn’t exactly the underdog anymore in terms of technology. And AMD’s Bulldozer days are firmly behind it at this point. Chiang said that X470 could exist in the market as the value alternative, for those who don’t need PCIe 4.0. That’s also a point AMD’s Donny Woligroski elaborated on earlier this month."

"If someone’s searching for a platform, and doesn’t really need that enthusiast-class PCIe Gen4 storage, or you’re not planning to buy a PCIe Gen 4 graphics card in the next six months to a year, it makes a lot of sense to look at those lower-tier boards like the X470 and B450, which will offer the same performance on those 3rd Gen Ryzen processors as the X570 will, said Woligroski."

https://www.gamersnexus.net/news-pc/...-comcast-fraud

1. Donny Woligroski, the X470 is TOP-tier board for the Ryzen 2nd generation.
2. I don't need PCIe 4.0
3. Glad to read that the X470 will offer the same performance on those 3rd Gen Ryzen processors as the X570 will.
4. According to AMD, backward compatibility is valid until 2020. It will be the end of AM4. A new socket will be needed due to new technologies, such as DDR5, etc.
5. Therefore, I will keep my X470 (CH7) and go for a 3600X/3700X.
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No, its a very reasonably price.


Want to know what's a lot of money?

Check Intel 16 cores cpu price. And that Intel cpu is slower and with higher power consuption.
Expensive compared to our country. Turkey.

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Some interesting slides
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Some interesting slides
What i see here is with PBO we will have:

4.4 ghz turbo + 200 mhz PBO = 4.6 GHz for 3700x
4.5 ghz turbo + 200 mhz PBO = 4.7 GHz for 3800x
4.6 ghz turbo + 200 mhz PBO = 4.8 GHz for 3900x

This may be true?


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