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post #11 of 30 (permalink) Old 07-10-2019, 07:06 AM
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so want the dude to save barely any money go with an intel chip clock it to 5 giggle hertz, a the chip that will essentially be maxed within a year with no longevity lol ok, waste of money! bad advice. amd cpus can get better intel cannot.
Well my advice is kind of bias towards mmo's i suppose, having a 5ghz chip guarantees the best experience in the most demanding titles possible. Minimum fps will be much higher in an mmo (and plenty of online games) to where it is a noticeable experience improvement on a 144hz monitor (say 75fps vs 95, quite noticeable). But yes many games wont care as much about a fast cpu.

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The issue with the 3700x is its binned lower than the 3900x, which is binned lower than the 3950x which competes with Epic binning. I think AMD made a mistake here and should have binned the 3700x higher but as it sits, your binning is going to be mid grade to low end.

Purely gaming, Intel still comfortably holds the crown, especially when overclocked to 5Ghz. My 8700k is a better gaming CPU than Ryzen 3.

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Oh noes.

I see a few games that are running my 16 thread Ryzens at over 50% cpu usage - meaning it is tapping into the SMT. I'd really like to try a 16c/32t ryzen with SMT disabled for comparison.

Wonder if AMD would consider a CPU that was 16 threaded without SMT ( TDP advantages higher clocks etc), clock the snot out of it and sell it as a "gaming" chip?

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I'd go 3800x. It is a single chiplet design, maximum cores per CCX, with the highest clock out of the box. Makes the most sense to me. Myself I'd rather save a bit and get the 3700x with situationally-dependent slightly lower FPS.

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I'd go 3800x. It is a single chiplet design, maximum cores per CCX, with the highest clock out of the box. Makes the most sense to me. Myself I'd rather save a bit and get the 3700x with situationally-dependent slightly lower FPS.
I agree. That extra 100MHz boost of 3800X may leave the op longing someday. For an extra 50$ might be worth it, especially with a 2080 Ti.

This is coming from an owner of a 2700 non X. Although, i got my cpu for only 200$ over a year ago. Much bigger difference.


EDIT: If you can afford the 3900X, then splurge on it. It's the best binned based on its clocks. Everybody has a budget. The most budget-conscious people i know are the ones who are rich. The only people who do have a budget are the ones who do not have money.

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In gaming it has no chance vs my new 10900k @ 5400mhz and 4600c16 tweaked memory. ~35ns memorylatency.
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3800X probably best but no one reviewed it yet. Reviewers are stubborn and dont want to buy it. They want it free from AMD.

3700X vs 3900X ? 3900X clearly better because you said money is not a problem.

I'm little bit disappointed by the gaming performance though. Cpus can't hit their max boost speeds disappointing too. No oc headroom etc... I was gonna go with beasty amd build but now i'm considering price/perf cpu like 3600 or 3700X and update in the future. Sadly 9900k is still best but i don't wanna buy it. I can go with 3800X if reviews can convince me but i can't justify it. Intel is better at gaming. So i'll go with performance per price king for now. I can ignore the value and upgrade to the absolute best when 4000 series drops.
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3700x + MSI B450 Tomahawk + B-die RAM = profit. All this for less than the launch price of the 9900K not to mention you don't have to buy a cooler
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Quote: Originally Posted by fursko View Post
3800X probably best but no one reviewed it yet. Reviewers are stubborn and dont want to buy it. They want it free from AMD.

3700X vs 3900X ? 3900X clearly better because you said money is not a problem.

I'm little bit disappointed by the gaming performance though. Cpus can't hit their max boost speeds disappointing too. No oc headroom etc... I was gonna go with beasty amd build but now i'm considering price/perf cpu like 3600 or 3700X and update in the future. Sadly 9900k is still best but i don't wanna buy it. I can go with 3800X if reviews can convince me but i can't justify it. Intel is better at gaming. So i'll go with performance per price king for now. I can ignore the value and upgrade to the absolute best when 4000 series drops.
Rumor has it that the 3800X was kept at bay purposely, so it won't take the limelight from the 3900X.

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3800X probably best but no one reviewed it yet. Reviewers are stubborn and dont want to buy it. They want it free from AMD.

3700X vs 3900X ? 3900X clearly better because you said money is not a problem.

I'm little bit disappointed by the gaming performance though. Cpus can't hit their max boost speeds disappointing too. No oc headroom etc... I was gonna go with beasty amd build but now i'm considering price/perf cpu like 3600 or 3700X and update in the future. Sadly 9900k is still best but i don't wanna buy it. I can go with 3800X if reviews can convince me but i can't justify it. Intel is better at gaming. So i'll go with performance per price king for now. I can ignore the value and upgrade to the absolute best when 4000 series drops.
you seem have dilemma, i'm buying a 3900X and be happy with just like my 2700X, i play @ 1440p with 165hz freesync monitor vega 64, my gaming expriece have never been better. I'm simple guy i don't need 7-12 more fps to be happy, honestly your situation trivial at best.

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