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post #1 of 8 (permalink) Old 07-16-2019, 12:12 AM - Thread Starter
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37/3800x vs 3900x for gaming while streaming?

Hoping someone can give me some advice. Planning for now and to last hopefully 2-3 years whether 8/16 cores is enough or I should be looking at 12/24. I've been trying to get into Twitch/YouTube streaming while gaming and plan to continue using CPU rendering vs NVenc. I know anything is going to be an improvement over my current experiences trying to do this on a 4790K but I don't know if the 12/24 is going to be complete overkill or if the 8/16 could potentially run out of headroom etc. I have no plans to build a separate streaming PC.

Other use cases for the build are Photoshop Classic CC with some light Photoshop CC work and potentially some occasional video editing of home video type stuff with something like Premiere Elements. Also the occasional VM for web development but it doesn't need to run while other things are running. I had expected to be buying a 3900X but would obviously be happy to save 100-170 and go with a 3700 or 3800x.

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post #2 of 8 (permalink) Old 07-16-2019, 12:34 AM - Thread Starter
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And I may have just answered my question. JayzTwoCents just had Steve from GN on his channel talking about both mfrs and some recommendations for use cases and an 8/16 setup with the 3700x was recommended for gaming while streaming. So it sounds like I can do that or the 3800x if I potentially want to come closer to getting a better binned part.


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Based on your idea of getting into streaming, honestly, I would just go with the 3700x or 9900KF personally leaning more towards the 9900KF. The 9900KF is the same as the 9900k, just no iGPU and you already have the GTX1070, so it would serve you well. I have been seeing the 9900KF drop as low as $379 since the launch of Zen 2, so that matched with something like the ASRock Z390 Phantom Gaming 4 $79 mobo, you could have a decent streaming PC for $560

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Quote: Originally Posted by Storx View Post
Based on your idea of getting into streaming, honestly, I would just go with the 3700x or 9900KF personally leaning more towards the 9900KF. The 9900KF is the same as the 9900k, just no iGPU and you already have the GTX1070, so it would serve you well. I have been seeing the 9900KF drop as low as $379 since the launch of Zen 2, so that matched with something like the ASRock Z390 Phantom Gaming 4 $79 mobo, you could have a decent streaming PC for $560

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07MGBZWDZ...-20&pldnSite=1

Thanks for the info. If I go Intel I'll probably end up with a 9900K. I have a friend that works at Intel from when I was a contractor there during the early Core 2 days and he might be able to get me a 9900K on the employee purchase program which would be way cheaper than anything retail. I'm mostly still looking at AMD right now because the performance is close, and I'll likely run the system for at least 3-4 years (current is 5 years old but was only expected to be about 4) as far as the mobo/cpu goes so I was thinking having PCIE gen 4 might be nice. Also, that Asrock board definitely would not work for me lol, I need a LOT more USB ports than that thing offers. For Z390 I figured I'd end up with an Aorus Ultra or Master. The Asus boards seem overpriced and have a number of bad reviews, besides knowing that the VRM's apparently suck on them. Z390 Meg Ace was my other potential Z390 candidate board if I stay Intel.

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Considering your use case and slow upgrade path, I'd probably go for the 3900X.
Not because gaming + streaming would top up all 16 threads, but rather because your productive workload might increase with time.

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Quote: Originally Posted by fragamemnon View Post
Considering your use case and slow upgrade path, I'd probably go for the 3900X.
Not because gaming + streaming would top up all 16 threads, but rather because your productive workload might increase with time.


Trying to hold out. Newegg and Amazon both have 3700x and 3800x but no 3900x ugh.


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Well, that Intel contact doesn't look to be panning out. The 3900X is still out of stock everywhere. Looks more and more like I'm gonna end up with a 3700X at this point (thinking the 3800X isn't worth it) and then drop a higher end 4xxx in it next year assuming the socket doesn't change. Thoughts? Should I just suck it up and wait for the 3900X to show back up?

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Meh, get the 3700X now and see how it performs. 3900X in stores for purchase, buy it, sell the 3700X. Pretty simple. You'd be happy with any of the processors. If they all can clock the same, the only difference at that point is core/thread count.

Either way, a 3700X is going to really KILL your current 4790K. Gonna be a nice upgrade.



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