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post #1 of 28 (permalink) Old 07-20-2019, 09:55 AM - Thread Starter
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3900x with stock Wraith Prism Cooler. If you were thinking about using it even temporally just don't.

Wanted to give my experience with using the wraith prism cooler with my 3900x...... TLDR Don't install it. Not even for a few days. If you absolutely have to use it clean off the stock paste and use something else before installing.

I figured I would use the stock cooler for a few days with my new build while I figured out what cooler I wanted to get for it. I installed it and didn't like the idle temps or the noise. Idle was around 54C and the fan was running at 2500RPM at idle. I have a multi meter that does DB readings and it shows an average of 51db sitting in front of my keyboard with the PC on the desk inside a Fractal Define R5 case with all the sound deadening inserts installed. I dealt with it for a day and decided to repaste it. The nightmare started. I popped the clips and it didn't want to come off. I wiggled it around a bit and it would move but it was pretty stuck. I very carefully put pressure on the edges and finally got it to pop loose. There was thermal paste EVERYWHERE. It had leaked down the sides of the CPU, got all over the socket and even got all over the board around the socket. I cleaned everything up as best as I could with Qtips and alcohol and pulled out the CPU to clean the edges better. There was thermal paste under the CPU and on the pins. I carefully cleaned it all up with toothpicks and more alcohol and cleaned the socket. I reinstalled it with some new paste and the temps and noise were about the same.

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post #2 of 28 (permalink) Old 07-20-2019, 10:07 AM
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Lol there's no way I'm using a wraith prism cooler on my 12 core chip

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I remember when socket 775 launched they came with the same cooler Amd has switched to these days. They where not called “wraiths something “ but they where still crap and ran hot and noisy that was in 2006.
The wraith max on the other hand is more like it and should be included with all x cpu’s.

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I liked the cooler that came with the Ryzen 7 1700 better than the one with the new Ryzen 7 3800X. I already knew about the stock paste sticking like glue and the amount yikes! The horror stores told...
I cleaned that stuff off right away and put some MX-4 on it instead!

Though I only had it on the 2days before I rebuilt my water cooling for it I found the amount of noise it make annoying. The older screw it in place version for the 1700 was so much more silent at all times I found, it's dead silent in comparison.

The fin-base of the new is the same they have been using for ages. I can fetch almost the same cooler for my 939/AM2+ CPU:s but with a 70mm fan instead. The bigger fan wasn't that much better, though the light show was mesmerizing to watch.

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Dude. It is 100F ambient temps in Colorado, and you stick a 12 core in a sound deadened, no air flow Fractal Refine?

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Dude. It is 100F ambient temps in Colorado, and you stick a 12 core in a sound deadened, no air flow Fractal Refine?

but it was refined so it should be okay.


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You are not suppose to lift any air cooler straight up even after twisting it. Lift one side or end while keeping the opposite side on the cpu. And as someone mentioned, you got to replace the stock paste unless you don't have any at hand.

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Take a quick drive to Microcenter and pick up a decent AIO or a Noctua cooler.

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Dude. It is 100F ambient temps in Colorado, and you stick a 12 core in a sound deadened, no air flow Fractal Refine?
It's pretty cool in my house with AC running. I keep it about 72F. I did a lot of work to get my define R5 cool and now I think it cools better than my last Corsair case. I have higher flowing phanteks 140mm intake and exhaust fans and replaced the rear expansion slot covers with higher flow ones from Silverstone. Also don't have any drive bays installed. It runs pretty cool in general. I will say though it's not a good idea to ever use a stock cooler on a 12 core. I thought it would be fine for a couple days till I got a good cooler but that's definitely not the case at all.


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You are not suppose to lift any air cooler straight up even after twisting it. Lift one side or end while keeping the opposite side on the cpu. And as someone mentioned, you got to replace the stock paste unless you don't have any at hand.
Correct thats what I did. After twisting it I lifted an edge and it came fee. The CPU didn't come out or come loose from the socket. There was just a massive amount of thermal paste everywhere.

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I am interested to see what the stock cooler does for the 3900X at it's base frequency P-state speed and voltage. Could you do a little experiment please?


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