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The 4770k is a great CPU. Intel CPUs haven't changed a lot from then to now. More cores is the main difference and no games really care about having lots of CPU threads. If you had a good OC with good ram with the 4770k there really shouldn't be much different for gaming.

Until games that use more CPU threads start coming out ryzen vs Intel isn't going to change much other than + or -10% here or there. Other than running an OCed 9900k with a 2080 ti in a low resolution, games are happy with 4-8 threads and decent ram.

Also I second that you shouldn't go over 3600mhz on the ram with ryzen.
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I think BF5 is probably the title that would benifit the most from more CPU cores, but it's really the exception. Very few games will show a significant FPS difference with a strong CPU clock that has at least 8 threads vs something with even more threads.

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I think BF5 is probably the title that would benifit the most from more CPU cores, but it's really the exception. Very few games will show a significant FPS difference with a strong CPU clock that has at least 8 threads vs something with even more threads.
AC:Odyssey shows a large advantage too - it's going to be this way moving forward


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AC:Odyssey shows a large advantage too - it's going to be this way moving forward
i don't see why not, we've got yet another generation of console coming, n its stuffed full of cores.

you can only hope that some day, via dx12, we start getting some of those fancy features they're baking in.

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i don't see why not, we've got yet another generation of console coming, n its stuffed full of cores.

you can only hope that some day, via dx12, we start getting some of those fancy features they're baking in.
Coming, but not here yet. Ryzen will likely shine more once new consoles are out but not before then.

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AC:Odyssey shows a large advantage too - it's going to be this way moving forward
This is completely false. After 8 threads there is virtually no gain.


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Check out this video

you will see the ryzen CPUs are not ahead by a lot, and if you were to take the 4790 and OC it to 4.6ghz, that would probably make up the difference.

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Check out this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yd02w2Pw6Zg

you will see the ryzen CPUs are not ahead by a lot, and if you were to take the 4790 and OC it to 4.6ghz, that would probably make up the difference.
With a mid-range card there would hardly be any difference.

At OP, are you using Win 10 1903 and AMD's latest chipset? See post 102.

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With a mid-range card there would hardly be any difference.

At OP, are you using Win 10 1903 and AMD's latest chipset? See post 102.

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You guys are literally finding like the three games that show a big difference with more threads and drawing false conclusions from it. Far Cry 5, BF5, and one or two other games do show a 30 or so FPS difference with a very strong GPU. With anything less than a 2080 ti, that difference will shrink. With any other titles, the difference will shrink.

There are probably no more than 5 games out right now that anyone can show a real difference in performance in with more than 8 threads and in all of those cases, 8 threads is still very strong performance wise. Ryzen 3rd gen is likely the PS5 CPU and until PS5 style games come out, done expect to see big gains on ryzen.

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Believe what you want to believe. Let the readers have their opinion.

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