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post #1 of 29 (permalink) Old 08-10-2019, 11:05 PM - Thread Starter
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3700X temps/Not smooth when gaming

hey guys,

I have just upgraded my cpu n mobo to AMD and have purchased the 3700x.

I am currently using the stock cooler that comes with the CPU and I am getting an average of 50idle - 65c gaming, temp. I am unsure what the max temp for these chips are, I cant seem to find it anywhere.


so my question is, should I upgrade to a better CPU cooler ? I mainly use my pc for heavy gaming/browsing. etc.


Cheers,

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The temp is as expected, the cpu just won't clock quite as high at higher temps but it's fine up into the 90C range without damaging itself. The clocks improve with lower temps and ideally you want it to be less than 60C for better than normal clocks.. but this is hard because of how small the cores are in these chips.

The restriction with cooling on ryzen 3000 is more getting the heat out of the chip quick enough rather than having a big enough heatsink to get rid of the heat. The chip has loads of temp sensors inside it and the readout given is whatever the hottest temp reading inside the chip is. When the chip is boosting at stock the hottest temp will probably when you have two cores loaded and it boosts them to near max voltage and clocks, they create a hot-spot in the chip and the temp reading will be from in the middle of that hot-spot.

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The temp is as expected, the cpu just won't clock quite as high at higher temps but it's fine up into the 90C range without damaging itself. The clocks improve with lower temps and ideally you want it to be less than 60C for better than normal clocks.. but this is hard because of how small the cores are in these chips.

The restriction with cooling on ryzen 3000 is more getting the heat out of the chip quick enough rather than having a big enough heatsink to get rid of the heat. The chip has loads of temp sensors inside it and the readout given is whatever the hottest temp reading inside the chip is. When the chip is boosting at stock the hottest temp will probably when you have two cores loaded and it boosts them to near max voltage and clocks, they create a hot-spot in the chip and the temp reading will be from in the middle of that hot-spot.
Oh okay, Thanks for the response I think I might buy the Dark Rock 4 cooler as that looks decent and I prefer the air cooling. Cheers !

EDIT: I forgot that I also am having a strange issue of pc feeling not smooth when in game. for example I will be playing CSGO after turning the PC on at a nice 290fps solid no drops. Then I will go browsing on internet maybe play something else.. but as soon as I go back to cs go it will still be at 290fps but not smooth at all and the only way I can fix it is if I restart the computer. This also happends to one of my friends with an AMD pc.

I tried disabling and re enabling AMD Free sync but no luck.

Any ideas?

Cheers again,

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Oh okay, Thanks for the response I think I might buy the Dark Rock 4 cooler as that looks decent and I prefer the air cooling. Cheers !

EDIT: I forgot that I also am having a strange issue of pc feeling not smooth when in game. for example I will be playing CSGO after turning the PC on at a nice 290fps solid no drops. Then I will go browsing on internet maybe play something else.. but as soon as I go back to cs go it will still be at 290fps but not smooth at all and the only way I can fix it is if I restart the computer. This also happends to one of my friends with an AMD pc.

I tried disabling and re enabling AMD Free sync but no luck.

Any ideas?

Cheers again,

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Could be related to shader cache, try clear (disk cleanup) before re-launching csgo or disable it.

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Quote: Originally Posted by Jordan32 View Post
Oh okay, Thanks for the response I think I might buy the Dark Rock 4 cooler as that looks decent and I prefer the air cooling. Cheers !

EDIT: I forgot that I also am having a strange issue of pc feeling not smooth when in game. for example I will be playing CSGO after turning the PC on at a nice 290fps solid no drops. Then I will go browsing on internet maybe play something else.. but as soon as I go back to cs go it will still be at 290fps but not smooth at all and the only way I can fix it is if I restart the computer. This also happends to one of my friends with an AMD pc.

I tried disabling and re enabling AMD Free sync but no luck.

Any ideas?

Cheers again,

Jordan
Freesync Monitors, these are the only ones that do 200FPS on freesync that I am aware of as of today.Of course some Countries may have other monitors.SO for smooth playback with freesync you need to have FPS in the ranges I listed,not higher like 290FPS for freesync to work.

Agon AG352QCX- 30Hz-200Hz via DisplayPort 30Hz-200Hz via HDMI
Nixeus NX-EDG27240 35Hz-240Hz via DisplayPort 35Hz-240Hz via HDMI
Alienware AW2518Hf 48Hz-240Hz via DisplayPort 48Hz-240Hz via HDMI

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Quote: Originally Posted by gerardfraser View Post
Freesync Monitors, these are the only ones that do 200FPS on freesync that I am aware of as of today.Of course some Countries may have other monitors.SO for smooth playback with freesync you need to have FPS in the ranges I listed,not higher like 290FPS for freesync to work.

Agon AG352QCX- 30Hz-200Hz via DisplayPort 30Hz-200Hz via HDMI
Nixeus NX-EDG27240 35Hz-240Hz via DisplayPort 35Hz-240Hz via HDMI
Alienware AW2518Hf 48Hz-240Hz via DisplayPort 35Hz-240Hz via HDMI
Hey, I have the AlienWare monitor you have listed using the Display Port Cable.

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Meanwhile I'm hitting up to 85 degrees whilst gaming with a Noctua NH D15. Think I have an issue.

95 degrees celsius is the TJ max for the Ryzen 3000 series.

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Quote: Originally Posted by steelbom View Post
Meanwhile I'm hitting up to 85 degrees whilst gaming with a Noctua NH D15. Think I have an issue.

95 degrees celsius is the TJ max for the Ryzen 3000 series.
Dayum, Oh okay cool I was worried for a bit there
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