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It’s a summary of published info about 3900x what I have read
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3900x has the first bad chiplet with two broken cores, the second chiplet of 3900x is much worse than the first bad one. 3900x is a bottom of binning. So, I am waiting 3950x and hoping that both chiplets will be equal and good quality as 3800x or better level.
You make it sound like the 3900x is a piece of junk.lol

I actually really like mine and think it performs great.
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You make it sound like the 3900x is a piece of junk.lol

I actually really like mine and think it performs great.

if you like a product or not has nothing to do with it being/not being a high bin

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if you like a product or not has nothing to do with it being/not being a high bin
Well, that's true. I was just saying that I was happy with mine. You and Grin obviously want to hold out for the 3950X and that's cool with me.

Also, I want to add that maybe AMD simply can't do better with the binning of these chips and get any reasonable amount of these out there for sale. Heck, it's in short supply already.

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The truth is simple best binned chiplets AMD is using for Epics. The rested garbage they are using for production of Matisses. The only one hope I have on TOTL 3950x. Hey AMD, please give us two equally good chiplets in 3950x! 😉
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Quote: Originally Posted by Grin View Post
3900x has the first bad chiplet with two broken cores, the second chiplet of 3900x is much worse than the first bad one. 3900x is a bottom of binning. So, I am waiting 3950x and hoping that both chiplets will be equal and good quality as 3800x or better level.
I think the 3950X will be binned exactly the same as the 3900X. Why wouldn't it be? It only needs to hit 4.7GHz on lightly threaded workloads, and then in 16-core workloads those clocks will drop to stay in the 105W envelope. I'm sure there will be one 8-core chiplet with a great CCX and a good CCX. The other chiplet likely won't be that great, as the others that bench high will be used for another 3950X.
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In that case I will wait with my 2700x until next stepping or Zen3 I won’t buy a garbage. I want to have all cores equal for affinity multitasking
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The demand is high for Ryzen 3000 and rightfully so. Of course the supply can't keep up with the peak demand after launch when so many want to build a new system. Plus AMD has to first and foremost keep their contracts to business customers, so they are not gonna feed all their dies for lulz into retail when they need them for Epyc. 3900x is sold out on many shops, they probably don't make that many of them and I don't know why people would buy this one much either, get the 3600 or 3700X or 3950X.

As always best bins go to server CPUs, then to workstation, then to retail for us plebs. Allocation always goes to server first and retail last.

Doesn't matter if one die is "good" other "worse" that's always going to be the case on higher core count CPUs be it monolithic or chiplet. You will never get all cores top notch same quality. Intel also has boost precisely for this.
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Yeah, what sucks about all this binning is AMD will move 5GHz capable dies to Epyc and lock them to 3GHz to achieve insane voltage efficiency in server space. Yep, you heard it here first.

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Quote: Originally Posted by ajlueke View Post
I think the 3950X will be binned exactly the same as the 3900X. Why wouldn't it be? It only needs to hit 4.7GHz on lightly threaded workloads, and then in 16-core workloads those clocks will drop to stay in the 105W envelope. I'm sure there will be one 8-core chiplet with a great CCX and a good CCX. The other chiplet likely won't be that great, as the others that bench high will be used for another 3950X.
Buildzoid tested ES and i think 16 cores max out at 3.75ghz, kinda ****ty
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