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Again, I am talking not about ALL cores simultaneously, I am talking about ANY core boost. It’s a common sense to have almost equal cores, isn’t it?
But 3900x is absolutely unique. It was intentionally designed by the way that only half of processor is OK and the second half is out of specifications. I could not find any statement from AMD about this.
Oh dear, that is so terribly bad. I mean my 3900X shows 2 cores gold star in RM and 2 cores grey star in RM yet all cores are able to run manual oc 4.35ghz with only 1.3625 vcore. Yup only bench stable but p95 no problem all cores at 4.225ghz using only 1.225vcore. Yes I can try higher but why would I if the performance at 4.225ghz is better that what I had or used before.

Now go and look in the mirror and tell yourself what you just said and think about it for a second. You clearly don't have a 3900x but want to tell those that do thst they have a poor processor. Go and check the C7H thread and you'll find a guy running his 3900x at 4.6Ghz and more all core without an issue.

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That is interesting I did not find any info yet that the cores from the second chiplet in 3900x are able to boost till 4.6. Thank you can you post a link?
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Ok but where is the threadrippers? Damn, there is no announcements even

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I find this very concering that manufactures are trying to get away by binning the CPU's themselves to the point of selling golden samples as the TOTL models which would mean the availability might be abysmal...see the 3900X and the upcoming 3950X or the 9900KS with all-core 5.0 boost.

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I find this very concering that manufactures are trying to get away by binning the CPU's themselves to the point of selling golden samples as the TOTL models which would mean the availability might be abysmal...see the 3900X and the upcoming 3950X or the 9900KS with all-core 5.0 boost.
The Intel situation is silly ...

The AMD one ... you're seriously complaining about bins with a chiplet product? Without heavy binning there would be no product. The current shortages are due to wafer shortages.
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TSMC has announced a threefold increase in its delivery lead times for 7 nm orders, from two months to nearly six months, which means that orders will now have to wait three times longer to be fulfilled than they once did. This means that current channel supplies and orders made after the decision from TSMC will take longer to materialize in actual silicon, which may lead to availability slumps should demand increase or maintain. AMD has its entire modern product stack built under the 7 nm process, so this could potentially affect both CPUs and GPUs from the company - and let's not forget AMD's Zen 3 and next-gen RDNA GPUs which are all being designed for the 7 nm+ process node. TSMC is expected to set aside further budget to expand capacity of its most advanced nodes, whilst accelerating investment on their N7+, N6, N5, and N3 nodes.
Good lord!
Securing a 3950X at launch, you can potentially scalp a two fold profit!
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Good lord!
Securing a 3950X at launch, you can potentially scalp a two fold profit!
Wafers being delivered now for AMD would mostly have been ordered at least 12 months ago, if not considerably longer. They may have made additional orders in the run up to the launch, when it was clear the product was going to be a success, but this news is irrelevant.

AMD knew there would be serious supply problems. Hence why they've warned at least 3 times during investor calls that would be the case, from as early as January I think.

They should get a bit more supply in Q4, but it's not really expected that the supply issues for Zen 2 will clear up until after the New Year, as they should have a significantly larger wafer allocation from then on.

Good news is, I don't think AMD will suffer such bad wafer supply constraints for Zen 3 & RDNA 2 on 7nm+(EUV) in 2020. TSMC's DUV vanilla 7nm is their most demanded node in a long while, and will be a huge bulk of their business for many years.

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