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post #31 of 231 (permalink) Old 11-08-2019, 12:23 PM
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$40 per thread for i7 2600k , $54 per thread 2500k, $23 per thread 3950X $29 per thread 3960X $31 per thread 3970X Just for perspective of how far we've come.

Would it be fair to compare it to what Intel was charging for an i7 desktop vs same gen I 5 to jump from 4 threads to 8 considering actual performance gained? $317 vs $216 in the case of sandy k's

smt vs h/t performance as well?

Just curious as to how you are measuring the fail.

5960x was $62 per thread. Ryzen 1800X = $31 As someone mentioned earlier.... game changer.

The scary thing for Intel is the up to 2X+ more performance per watt of the new Ryzen's . The FX 8350 got crucified for it's performance per watt vs the 3770K which was at roughly 1.6X across a variety of loads.
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The scary thing for Intel is the up to 2X+ more performance per watt of the new Ryzen's . The FX 8350 got crucified for it's performance per watt vs the 3770K which was at roughly 1.6X across a variety of loads.

yeah, but FX 8320 was a ~$200 CPU that got beat by Intel's ~$100 i3 3220 in plenty of situations, and CPUs around that price are popular price-points for people to build a budget gaming rig in. I built my first PC in 2006 and I haven't spent much over $200 on a CPU until my 9900K.

In the sub-$500 CPU price point buying Intel still makes (some) sense for (some) people. Buying an 8320 over an Intel equivalent made zero sense in any scenario.

Not saying Intel isn't in a bad situation, just playing devil's advocate

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If it's too expensive, don't buy it....

If they increased the price and people still buy, well then good for them. It's a business, not a charity. They will (and should) sell for what the market will allow.

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I was shopping the second hand market for a 20c/40t Xeon powered Dell R730 server and I had a hard time finding a bare bones one under $3k. The fact that I can soon get all that performance and then quite a bit more for $1400 3960X + $300 mobo + $100 rackmount case is tremendous. And this solution only requires one CPU and one CPU cooler on top of things.

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Quote: Originally Posted by speed_demon View Post
I was shopping the second hand market for a 20c/40t Xeon powered Dell R730 server and I had a hard time finding a bare bones one under $3k. The fact that I can soon get all that performance and then quite a bit more for $1400 3960X + $300 mobo + $100 rackmount case is tremendous. And this solution only requires one CPU and one CPU cooler on top of things.
you will not find it, annouced prices are never real and I never seen an HEDT motherboard for $300.
I expect to see 3960 $1500 at least and I don't expect to see mobo for less $600 for the cheap product with the high end coming in the $900 range.
those mobo will be more expensive than the previous one due to the much complex lanes and power requirements.

so are you ready to spend $2300 or $2400 for a 24 cores cpu+mobo?
stupid price.

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I don't have a budget, I can spend what I feel to not be fraud.

If mainstream can get a 16 cores for 750usd, if intel can sell a 18 cores for 1000usd, 24 cores for 1400usd is simply a fraud.

We all expecting the same performance per dollar value on hedt too a bit lower is reasonable, but hey, no way that a 24 cores costs two times a 16 cores in the mainstream platform.
No budget. Get this.

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us...-3-10-ghz.html

But it is gonna be pulverized by TR.

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Guys, don't buy nothing, spread that.
If everyone does that now, in 1 month the prices will fall and i will change my 3900 with a TR3 with far less money

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No budget. Get this.

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us...-3-10-ghz.html

But it is gonna be pulverized by TR.
Why is the price listed as only $42? Shouldn't it be $3500+?

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2970WX was $1300 now $800. Just wait a little
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Why is the price listed as only $42? Shouldn't it be $3500+?
At that price, I think I'll order 50 of them then resell them here.


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