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post #11 of 22 (permalink) Old 11-15-2019, 12:13 PM
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Not bad, but
1800x $500 in 2017 -> $100 in 2019
2700x $320 in 2018 -> $130 in 2019
3950X $750 in 2019 -> $250 in 2020 ?
the problem with this logic is that intel doesn't have anything to counter it for the next year (10c/20t @14nm @500$ won't do anything), in order for amd to lower the prices. Amd is also capacity constrained at tsmc and they will be for the whole 2020 , 7nm is much more expensive than globalfoundries 14/12nm and 3950x is made of 3 dies (2compute and 1 i/o)

I don't think we will ever find it below 350$
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AMD did this drop of all prices not Intel or you thought 2700x dropped to $130 because of 9900ks was released? 🙂
I think that AMD now has a one year cycle and after one year all zen2 prices will be reduced dramatically. Prices on zen3 may last longer 2-3 years. But zen2 is very shortliving because TSMC will move to the next N7 tech process soon

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CB15 only 210?
my 3900X , stock in 216/217 (4550mhz avg)

you have problems with boost, try installing my fix
https://www.catalog.update.microsoft...aspx?q=4524570

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Thank you for the suggestion. I aim to test at stock without any 3rd party modifications, which shouldn't be necessary to reach expected performance.
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Thank you @elmor for the detailed analysis

Per Guru3d review on TR2 2950X some time ago (before TR3 was a thing) 'AMD is using the top 5% of binned ASICs' for Threadripper out of their pool of chiplets [referring to TR2]. It should be interesting how they allocate the top bins for the 3950X and TR3 (and wherever Epyc fits in this). With TSMC running OT on 7nm, this could be entertaining...

My own is either get a 3950X (2x binned 8core chiplets) or a 3970x (4x binned 8core chiplets), the latter if productivity plays a bigger role in your apps

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Thank you @elmor for the detailed analysis

Per Guru3d review on TR2 2950X some time ago (before TR3 was a thing) 'AMD is using the top 5% of binned ASICs' for Threadripper out of their pool of chiplets [referring to TR2]. It should be interesting how they allocate the top bins for the 3950X and TR3 (and wherever Epyc fits in this). With TSMC running OT on 7nm, this could be entertaining...

My own is either get a 3950X (2x binned 8core chiplets) or a 3970x (4x binned 8core chiplets), the latter if productivity plays a bigger role in your apps
Glad there's interest for my ramblings. Will have content with TR3 and comparisons to TR2 on Monday.
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Glad there's interest for my ramblings. Will have content with TR3 and comparisons to TR2 on Monday.
Any chance you'll be testing the 3950x on x370?

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Any chance you'll be testing the 3950x on x370?
The chip I borrowed has been returned, what would you want to see tested? Memory compatibility? VRM temps?

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The chip I borrowed has been returned now, what would you want to see tested? Memory compatibility? VRM temps?
Yes sir, pretty much. I believe my C6H has good enough VRMs & cooling, its memory compatibility that worries me.

Also if the x370 chipset hinders performance in any major way?.

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Yes sir, pretty much. I believe my C6H has good enough VRMs & cooling, its memory compatibility that worries me.

Also if the x370 chipset hinders performance in any major way?.
Yes the VRM should be up to the task even with an overclocked 3950X, at least as long as there's some sort of airflow in your case. Memory compatibility should be identical to any other Ryzen 3000 series processor, which was a bit of an issue at launch on X370. It has hopefully improved at this point.
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Yes the VRM should be up to the task even with an overclocked 3950X, at least as long as there's some sort of airflow in your case. Memory compatibility should be identical to any other Ryzen 3000 series processor, which was a bit of an issue at launch on X370. It has hopefully improved at this point.
Thanks. I'll probably get the 3950x, hopefully it runs flawlessly on my X370 C6H.

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