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post #11 of 28 (permalink) Old 12-04-2019, 09:00 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted by oobymach View Post
Go 3600x and overclock. While it does a great job out of the box at boosting it doesn't do as good a job as a manual overclock. As with oc'ing anything monitor your temps. If you want a place to start here's a list of voltages/clocks for 3600x that I got stability with.



3.8ghz @ 1.1v

3.9ghz @ 1.15v

4.0ghz @ 1.18v

4.1ghz @ 1.2v

4.2ghz @ 1.23v



ONLY APPLY THE FOLLOWING IF YOU HAVE EXTREME COOLING, ESPECIALLY 4.4GHZ



4.3ghz @ 1.33v

[email protected] 1.35v

4.35ghz @ 1.37v

4.4ghz @ 1.42v
U don't need extreme cooling for 4.3ghz
It runs fine with stock cooler, sometimes it can reach 80 degrees at some games. So what?

I OC at 4.4-4.5Ghz and decided to order the Mugen cooler, but still it's not an extreme cooler.

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I already have parts on hand and all the reviews I read so not to bother with the 3600x especially when I already have a tower cooler.
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I'm looking to put together the exact same build. Sub'd for info, will ping you if I find any good deals today.
I've heard one other person state they got a boost in FPS from 180->210 from reducing ram latency alone.. never heard of anything like that before today ????

That is a lie,, no way in hell!!! You gain maybe 10fps not 30fps sighs..

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As a 3700x owner, I would say not worth it. Mine can only do 4.2G all cores stable with 1.35v, so if you want a faster CPU, buy 3800x or better.

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Yes all you said are true. AMD 3000 CPU's already come with almost max frequency. Where Intel its different, there is a lot of overclock potential where AMD will be at 4.1 or 4.2 as a overclock stock out of the box. You can maybe push 200 more Mhz and I doubt that. As for RAM AMD really likes RAM and the way it uses it they are picky about motherboards and reaching the full speed. In this case you could possibly fix it in BIOS and what not.
Have u ever touched a Ryzen PC? You are spouting facts like you've had several

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I finally got ABBA for my MSI X470 Gaming Plus so figured I'd see if it was as good as a lot of reviewers say. Most say to use PBO2 and not fool with manual overclock. In Cinebench R20 MT the PBO2 hit 1.45v but only 77c. The manual OC of 4300 + 1.325V hit 76c. In single the PBO2 did 1.35v vs my 1.325. The PBO2 stayed around 4.1ghz multicore rendering and 4.35ghz single.

Here are the scores:



So is using PBO2 worth it to keep Cool and Quiet or is the extra 200 R20 multicore tell me to manaully oc to 4.3 ?

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As a 3700x owner, I would say not worth it. Mine can only do 4.2G all cores stable with 1.35v, so if you want a faster CPU, buy 3800x or better.
My 3700x does 4.3 @ 1.35 but I run 4.2 @ 1.3 24/7

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My 3700x does 4.3 @ 1.35 but I run 4.2 @ 1.3 24/7
The joys of silicon lottery, as alwayys ymmv and quoting what one CPU can do doesnt apply to all. My 3600 for instance cant do 4.2ghz at anything less than 1.4v and for me thats just not worth it.

OP youll just have to test things out for yourself, if you get a good clocker thats great, if not like me then thats unfortunate. Some can clock well, some average, some crap, its luck of the draw if itll be worth it for you.

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I already have parts on hand and all the reviews I read so not to bother with the 3600x especially when I already have a tower cooler.
Not to bother with a 3600x for which reason?

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U don't need extreme cooling for 4.3ghz
It runs fine with stock cooler, sometimes it can reach 80 degrees at some games. So what?

I OC at 4.4-4.5Ghz and decided to order the Mugen cooler, but still it's not an extreme cooler.

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80 degrees stressed is ok, max tdp is 95 degrees so you're well within that. I find with noctua nh-d15s anything over 4.325ghz runs slower than 4.325 like my ram read speeds go down at higher speeds and temps go way up fast like if I run p95 small fft test over 4.35ghz windows just crashes

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I am not quite sure the Hyper 212 EVO will be any better than the Wraith Stealth. If I had to bet, I'd say that it'd be 1-2C lower under loat, at best.


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Yes all you said are true. AMD 3000 CPU's already come with almost max frequency. Where Intel its different, there is a lot of overclock potential where AMD will be at 4.1 or 4.2 as a overclock stock out of the box. You can maybe push 200 more Mhz and I doubt that. As for RAM AMD really likes RAM and the way it uses it they are picky about motherboards and reaching the full speed. In this case you could possibly fix it in BIOS and what not.
The way you have it worded is incorrect referring to max OC'ing potential of a 3000 series Ryzen - At least some 3000 series chips can go beyond stock by more than 200MHz with ease, depends on the actual setup and who's doing the tweaking. The exact chip used is another factor, the obvious silicon lotto in play with that and something we all deal with regardless of who made the chip.
As for what to expect, true - The typical (Everyday/Common) setup may only see 200 or so beyond stock and that's based on the above (Setup + Lotto).

I've had my 3600x (Stock 3.8 GHz) above 4400 on air before and even did a run with it to see what I could make it do on air: https://hwbot.org/submission/4196135...00x_9sec_157ms
Mind you it was cold air but aircooling is aircooling you know.
If it were on water I could have gone above that no prob, the chip in my case doesn't mind going up as long as I can keep temps in check and that's not really a problem for me to do if I want.

And I can say just because it's Intel is no guarantee of what you'd get either. Have a couple of those here that doesn't go much above stock period no matter how hard I flog 'em and that's in boards such as a Socket 775 REX - Yep, got one of those.

As for RAM speed you are right about that, Ryzen LOVES high RAM speed and a good dose of FCLK speed to go with it.

In reference to the OP's question - The answer is obvious, you are the only one that can determine that based on what you get after you try it. If you like what you get, it's worth it - If not then I guess not.
And if you never try it, you'll never know.
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