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post #21 of 28 (permalink) Old 12-06-2019, 08:08 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted by Kryton View Post
The way you have it worded is incorrect referring to max OC'ing potential of a 3000 series Ryzen - At least some 3000 series chips can go beyond stock by more than 200MHz with ease, depends on the actual setup and who's doing the tweaking. The exact chip used is another factor, the obvious silicon lotto in play with that and something we all deal with regardless of who made the chip.

As for what to expect, true - The typical (Everyday/Common) setup may only see 200 or so beyond stock and that's based on the above (Setup + Lotto).



I've had my 3600x (Stock 3.8 GHz) above 4400 on air before and even did a run with it to see what I could make it do on air: https://hwbot.org/submission/4196135...00x_9sec_157ms

Mind you it was cold air but aircooling is aircooling you know.

If it were on water I could have gone above that no prob, the chip in my case doesn't mind going up as long as I can keep temps in check and that's not really a problem for me to do if I want.



And I can say just because it's Intel is no guarantee of what you'd get either. Have a couple of those here that doesn't go much above stock period no matter how hard I flog 'em and that's in boards such as a Socket 775 REX - Yep, got one of those.



As for RAM speed you are right about that, Ryzen LOVES high RAM speed and a good dose of FCLK speed to go with it.



In reference to the OP's question - The answer is obvious, you are the only one that can determine that based on what you get after you try it. If you like what you get, it's worth it - If not then I guess not.

And if you never try it, you'll never know.

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The benchmark result that you have posted, doesn't mean anything for everyday stability.
It may be ok to run at 4400 for 9sec (after u see that other people on air have better results than u), but it doesn't mean that you are stable in general for long gaming or other heavy load tasks that need to run for a long period of time

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Quote: Originally Posted by oobymach View Post
80 degrees stressed is ok, max tdp is 95 degrees so you're well within that. I find with noctua nh-d15s anything over 4.325ghz runs slower than 4.325 like my ram read speeds go down at higher speeds and temps go way up fast like if I run p95 small fft test over 4.35ghz windows just crashes
Actually I have noticed around 55-65 degrees on games and 85 degrees on some benchmarks.
So in normal daily use, 4.3ghz it's not so hot as expected, as long as someone has a good airflow.

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Quote: Originally Posted by fragamemnon View Post
I am not quite sure the Hyper 212 EVO will be any better than the Wraith Stealth. If I had to bet, I'd say that it'd be 1-2C lower under loat, at best.


Perhaps you might want to look into a better tower cooler.
What?? Your joking right?? The hyper 212 evo should well outperform the wraith stealth.
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I guess the general idea is if I can manually clock it higher then 4.2ghz to go with that and if its a dud leave it at stock

This system is for my dad so rock stability is 100% important.
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Quote: Originally Posted by rastaviper View Post
The benchmark result that you have posted, doesn't mean anything for everyday stability.
It may be ok to run at 4400 for 9sec (after u see that other people on air have better results than u), but it doesn't mean that you are stable in general for long gaming or other heavy load tasks that need to run for a long period of time

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And please show me where I said it was - You can't.

I wasn't addressing anything except what was said within the quoted post about the OC limitation of a 3000 chip - Reread what I posted, I said with the average setup an OC of about 200 or so was plausible for daily use but in the way it was stated, was said as if 200 was about the absolute limit period, no matter what.
I had to address that and did so with factual evidence and can back it up anytime I need to.

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I guess the general idea is if I can manually clock it higher then 4.2ghz to go with that and if its a dud leave it at stock

This system is for my dad so rock stability is 100% important.
If its for you Dad and stability is of highest importance then overclocking is a non option IMO unless you want to support any potential issue it may cause. Leave it stock in this case IMO

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Is there still a difference between the 3600 non x and 3600x? like there was with the 2600?

In previous Ryzen PBO/XFR was limited with the non-x version and you had to manual OC to get similar clocks with the non-x.

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Finally after some serious delays got this all together, had a bit of a delay on needing the AM4 bracket as it needed to be order for the hyper 212 evo.

Compared to the wraith stealth at stock it dropped temps by 20c, so pretty big improvement.


Played with some manual overclocking and have all cores locked at [email protected]
325volts.

Tried for 4.250ghz and it becomes a bit unstable. Not sure what max safe voltage for 3000 series is but everything I have read says 1.325volts is safe for 24/7.

Performance is better then stock since its locked at marginally higher speed then max boost. Playing with PBO nets some useless results for me on the board.

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Multi:1491
Single:189

R15 score at 4.225ghz:
Multi:1622
Single:199

Seems to be a bit of a gap on single but could be just variance between runs.
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