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It's markedly different even from my 2700 system.

I find myself browsing the 3XXX chips too often lately...lol.

Have you tried the new chips on older boards ? X370 X470 specifically?
I've used R5 3600, R7 3700X and R9 3900X with my C7HWIFI (launch board). Even at launch of Zen2 I had decent results comparable to what I saw C8H/F owners having.

I've used 4x8GB Samsung B die and 2x16GB Micron E with the C7HWIFI. It doesn't hold back the attainment of 1900MHz FCLK/UCLK/MEMCLK, CPU samples do in my experience.

Of the 5x Zen2 I've had only 2x do 1900MHz 1:1:1 FCLK/UCLK/MEMCLK. A R5 3600 and a R9 3900X. The R7 3700X and two other R9 3900X were 3733MHz 1:1:1 FCLK/UCLK/MEMCLK.

My R5 3600 has been the most responsive to PBO tweaks. The R7 3700X was a bit pants for this aspect, perhaps I thought this due to the decent experience on R5 3600.

The 2x R9 3900X that couldn't do 1900MHz FCLK/UCLK/MEMCLK responded to PBO, the 1x which could do 1900MHz didn't respond to PBO, but that has quite a stellar CCD0. Then due to CPPC (ie the process of OS being aware of best cores) it actually ended by slightly better in normal use, as the OS loaded these cores up more often. Once core count/thread load exceeded CCD0 and spilled into CCD1 all the R9 3900X ended up close together.
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I've used R5 3600, R7 3700X and R9 3900X with my C7HWIFI (launch board). Even at launch of Zen2 I had decent results comparable to what I saw C8H/F owners having.

I've used 4x8GB Samsung B die and 2x16GB Micron E with the C7HWIFI. It doesn't hold back the attainment of 1900MHz FCLK/UCLK/MEMCLK, CPU samples do in my experience.

Of the 5x Zen2 I've had only 2x do 1900MHz 1:1:1 FCLK/UCLK/MEMCLK. A R5 3600 and a R9 3900X. The R7 3700X and two other R9 3900X were 3733MHz 1:1:1 FCLK/UCLK/MEMCLK.

My R5 3600 has been the most responsive to PBO tweaks. The R7 3700X was a bit pants for this aspect, perhaps I thought this due to the decent experience on R5 3600.

The 2x R9 3900X that couldn't do 1900MHz FCLK/UCLK/MEMCLK responded to PBO, the 1x which could do 1900MHz didn't respond to PBO, but that has quite a stellar CCD0. Then due to CPPC (ie the process of OS being aware of best cores) it actually ended by slightly better in normal use, as the OS loaded these cores up more often. Once core count/thread load exceeded CCD0 and spilled into CCD1 all the R9 3900X ended up close together.
Thank you very much - very helpful as always!

Trying to decide if I should upgrade mobo and chip or just try a 3xxx on my Titanium X370 or my Asus X470 strix mini itx.

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NP.

If you don't need PCI-E gen 4.0 I'd stick with your X370/X470 boards TBH. I have no plans to dump my C7H yet, would still be on C6H if I hadn't got the C7H FOC TBH.

The only thing I'm aware of, that my C7H lacks in UEFI for 3000 series is per CCX OC. C8I/H/F do have it, some other X570 boards don't have this feature as well.
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Cinebench R20 3436 points with 3600 at 3.8Ghz and 3000Mhz dual channel.


The default setting in the first post with 3600Mhz RAM is about 4% faster.
Default setting has average clock speed of about 3.96Ghz.


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I havent upgraded my rig in years but went to the 3600. Now that I have my DH-15 I find that 4200 mhz on all cores at 1.38 volts is stable and nice for benching. I really dont want to push much farther. Cinebench 20 gets the core temps up to around 66-68 at those settings, was hitting 85-87 on stock cooler. But I run 4000 mhz at 1.26 volts for my 24/7 setup. Do these numbers seem about right?

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Quote: Originally Posted by Chuckclc View Post
I havent upgraded my rig in years but went to the 3600. Now that I have my DH-15 I find that 4200 mhz on all cores at 1.38 volts is stable and nice for benching. I really dont want to push much farther. Cinebench 20 gets the core temps up to around 66-68 at those settings, was hitting 85-87 on stock cooler. But I run 4000 mhz at 1.26 volts for my 24/7 setup. Do these numbers seem about right?

Looks good to me

What are you scoring in R20 at 4.2?

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Looks good to me

What are you scoring in R20 at 4.2?
Looks like 3821 was my last run. Just did a run at 4.0 and got 3639. Stock RAM settings, Corsair Vengeance 3200mhz 16-18-18-36-54

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Looks like 3821 was my last run. Just did a run at 4.0 and got 3639. Stock RAM settings, Corsair Vengeance 3200mhz 16-18-18-36-54
That's a lot of performance from a sub $200 chip isn't it .

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That's a lot of performance from a sub $200 chip isn't it .
Yeah I am loving it man! Went from an I7 4770 to this. Also from a GTX 970 to an RTX 2060KO. Both made huge differences.

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Yeah I am loving it man! Went from an I7 4770 to this. Also from a GTX 970 to an RTX 2060KO. Both made huge differences.
Very solid rig.

4790k clocked to the hilt was giving about 155 fps in bf1 64 player servers - 1800X -180. Pretty good step up even to the first gen in that particular game.

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