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Quote: Originally Posted by UltraMega View Post
This is clearly well above the scope of the OP. If anything you are just confusing the issue.

OP, dont worry about PCI lanes, it's not an issue.
Wait... I am confused. We are talking about a DAW are we not? This is why back in my first comment I asked for his Interface. If the Equipment that he plans to use needs a x16 Lane or 2, then how many lanes are definitely within the scope of this.

That said, most likely it won't be an issue, again this is why I said to be mindful of the hardware you are using. We don't know the OP's expertise, or equipment, but if it turns out he plans on using a couple UAD-2's or other Interfaces that require Multiple PCIE Lanes, it is a valid example. The Major point being, make sure you know what equipment you are using, and the requirements they have, in some High End cases, that does mean needing enough PCIE Lanes.

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sometimes to get the amount of channels you need, you have to stack interfaces... comes down to how many slots are available. with the new-age pci-e splits, you can stack more cards on an hedt platform using breakouts. Most normal users are going to be using usb devices anyways, running into problems when they want it to run on the same root hub as their logitech gaming controller. LOL

This is why real equipment exists for real production though.
not to derail but something you said sparked my interest.... I wonder if this is why I'm having issues communicating with my shield in fastboot.

thanks for the idea. PS2 KB+M & only the shield connected via USB. nothing else.

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At this point, it could just be for making sick beatz... no interfaces at all.

Not quite the same as an audio production rig, but alot of people like to overglorify the new school making midi equivalents and dumping out some wav (now mp3) files as audio production setups.

When i think audio production rig, i think recording a whole band, or working movie sound tracks. Not a weekend flyer playing with MixMan. LOL Sorry.

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UltraMega, OP still hasn't said what interface(s) they have chosen. May be relevant, may not. Just as your saying to not worry about it.
Yup, exactly. It all depends, still waiting to hear what interface he is using, and to see how familiar he is with all of his equipment. We don't know what will be relavent yet. We do know that in most cases it does not matter the platform you choose, you just need to make sure you know the requirements of your Audio Gear going into it, so that you build around that. If you are just using a simple USB Audio Interface, PCIE Lanes is not at all a concern, even if you plan on using a Sound Card (Of which for pro audio there are plenty of x4 Cards by the way, but thats besides the point), pretty much in this scenario, just pick a platform, connect everything up and dive in, have fun, and make some killer music!

Still can't wait to hear the DAW Software and Audio Interface you Plan on using.

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At this point, it could just be for making sick beatz... no interfaces at all.

Not quite the same as an audio production rig, but alot of people like to overglorify the new school making midi equivalents and dumping out some wav (now mp3) files as audio production setups.

When i think audio production rig, i think recording a whole band, or working movie sound tracks. Not a weekend flyer playing with MixMan. LOL Sorry.
You just made some excellent points in this post and your last few. +Rep

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if its just "sick beatz" then all they'll need is a $300 laptop.

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if its just "sick beatz" then all they'll need is a $300 laptop.
this... and to unplug their phone and pink bunny buzzer charger from the ports, while using their $60 USB interface. No reason for that stuff, cant talk while your recording, and cant play with yourself either. Well, unless your a singer/frontman.

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if its just "sick beatz" then all they'll need is a $300 laptop.
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this... and to unplug their phone and pink bunny buzzer charger from the ports, while using their $60 USB interface. No reason for that stuff, cant talk while your recording, and cant play with yourself either. Well, unless your a singer/frontman.
HAHAHA!

As long as that $300 Laptop has an SSD in it. If it doesn't, just stop now...

God, I remember the days of Running Sessions before SSDs. Looking back, I don't remember how the hell we all put up with it.

I remember, I was reading an article about SSD's and how expensive they were when they first started to hit the mainstream. I remember it was something like $400 for a 32GB SSD. Something Ridiculous like that. And I remember thinking, I can't even fit Windows XP x64 Bit, Pro Tools, and my plugins on that. No way I am wasting money on some new BS Drive Tech. Then One of my clients came by my studio, this was when I was still running my studio in a hole in the wall building suite (Man I miss those days). And He made all his Beats on his Laptop, and it had an SSD in it, and he wanted me to track it out and import it all into a session, so I could Mix it for him before an upcoming session with the Singer. So he handed the Laptop to me, and while working in it it was such a dream. Everything loaded instantly, and was so fast, and I remember asking him "what kind of processor does this thing have in it?" And he tells me, "oh you like how snappy it is huh?" And I was like, "Yeah". And he was like, "oh well thats just a crappy Dual Core Celeron based laptop, but it has an SSD In it, its the SSD you feel."

I was blown away! Literally while I was exporting the Tracks from Reason, I pulled up Newegg on my PC, found an Intel, I forget the Model Number now, but it was a 64GB SSD, and it was on sale for something like $450 or something, and I remember him telling me how that was such a good deal compared to the one he had gotten for his laptop. I bought 2 and Ran them in RAID 0 so I would have enough to run my OS, Protools, all Plugins and still have room left over. And my Studio was never the same since. We went from waiting for every little thing, to being able to Zip through Projects. Then I remember a few years later when I was able to afford my first All SSD RAID 5 Array, and use them for Client Sessions. I remember when I lost my first Array too, that sucked, but because I always practice Safe Backups, it was just a few hours of nausea while I rebuilt the array and transferred all the files from backup back to the new array.

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Yeah this used to be a MUCH bigger deal then it is these days. I ran a pretty decently sized studio here in town for years. My Main Editing Rig used a AMD Phenom 2 6-Core, and I did indeed used to have issues, all of which I got around, and the truth was my Mac Rigs running Intel had just as many issues, they just tended to be different.

Again, if that time is just something you don't have, and you need a new Rig up and running for a session in a day or 2, then Intel right now might be the better option, but if you have a session or 2 to work out the kinks (which to be honest you may need with an Intel Build anyway depending on your other hardware choices) then AMD is a valid option, and short of some new issue that arises that I am not yet aware of, where there is actual proof of a deal breaking issue, I wouldn't let overblown comments scare you.
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didn't you hear? audio work stations weren't even possible until intel released their latest big boy enthusiast chip!
Ah, I thought I remembered that handle and avatar... much debate about X570/3950X vs. 10980XE in dozens of threads, right?

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my meeting book is an HP360, it came with a 256 m.2, n I believe it was ~$500 but its a transformer.

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