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Thuban vs. Vishera

A fellow on youtube posted a recent comparison of the 2.


Anyone interested in seeing me compare them?

Would this be a worthy opponent for the 8 core Vishera?
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Those are names I haven't heard in a while, what year is it?

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Those are names I haven't heard in a while, what year is it?
Heh - I've been battling health issues and have been off work and generally not able to do much... forgive me.... I'm bored lol.


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do it if you want but you'd likely get more support from a forum that has more members, lol. there's not too many people here that are active let alone still hanging onto old hardware.

I upgraded from a golden X4 960T (unlocked to an X6 1090T) to a 8320 and it was a side grade at best, don't remember the details though. your test would be at least moderately nostalgic for me if nothing else

the 960T can be had for $20 on eBay ezpz and almost all of them unlocked to an X6, it would be an interesting budget CPU for a build nowadays if you don't need AVX2.

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Honestly unless you had some high clocks like i did Vishera offered nothing over Thuban

I've owned Phenoms and FXs. FXs honestly was hot garbage and i had a 8350 clocked at 5.3GHz daily all core and it still was mediocre

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Quote: Originally Posted by The Pook View Post
do it if you want but you'd likely get more support from a forum that has more members, lol. there's not too many people here that are active let alone still hanging onto old hardware.

I upgraded from a golden X4 960T (unlocked to an X6 1090T) to a 8320 and it was a side grade at best, don't remember the details though. your test would be at least moderately nostalgic for me if nothing else

the 960T can be had for $20 on eBay ezpz and almost all of them unlocked to an X6, it would be an interesting budget CPU for a build nowadays if you don't need AVX2.
I have 4 of the 960T's , the 2 , 1207 batch are X6s and godlike. The other 2 are pretty awful - earlier batches - one will only unlock to an X5 ,the other is a quad - period. Both struggle to hit 4 ghz even at 4C.

The 1075T I have is a 1207 batch and it does very well.

If the CHV-Z would unlock the really good 960T I have, I'd use it instead. The GD80 is in a rig already, my 790 GX and FX boards are old enough I don't trust them pushing an X 6 above 4.2 or so. The only other option I have is the Gigabyte 990 UD5 - but that bios is soooo bad I didn't have much luck getting the best performance out of any chip I tried on it.

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I have 4 of the 960T's , the 2 , 1207 batch are X6s and godlike. The other 2 are pretty awful - earlier batches - one will only unlock to an X5 ,the other is a quad - period. Both struggle to hit 4 ghz even at 4C.

The 1075T I have is a 1207 batch and it does very well.

If the CHV-Z would unlock the really good 960T I have, I'd use it instead. The GD80 is in a rig already, my 790 GX and FX boards are old enough I don't trust them pushing an X 6 above 4.2 or so. The only other option I have is the Gigabyte 990 UD5 - but that bios is soooo bad I didn't have much luck getting the best performance out of any chip I tried on it.

Sad that the best days of OCN are behind it.

I bought mine late 2011, dunno what batch it was but it was great whatever it was. It still is the fastest 960T on HWBOT on ambient cooling somehow.

https://hwbot.org/benchmark/cpu_freq...23#interval=20

pretty sure the days of unlocking CPU cores are over too

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Quote: Originally Posted by The Pook View Post
I bought mine late 2011, dunno what batch it was but it was great whatever it was. It still is the fastest 960T on HWBOT on ambient cooling somehow.

https://hwbot.org/benchmark/cpu_freq...23#interval=20

pretty sure the days of unlocking CPU cores are over too
Very good chip to be sure.

One of my 1207's died at 4.8 ghz running firestrike , the psu tripped ocp and that was the end of it.

EDIT: Feb 15 a dark day...lol
https://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/4014547/fs/4020378#

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I'm still trying to decide what to do with a 965 BE build. I don't think it's ever been used for anything other than internet and some super light games (it was my daughter's computer around 8 years ago). It's a dinosaur as far as performance, and it's too power hungry to use in a media center/server situation, plus it's on a full size board. I hate to throw it out, but I honestly can't think of a single use for it.
965 BE is a fun overclocker.
At 4GHz + CPU/NB overclocking + 1600MHz it still has some useful performance.

Mine was hitting 4.6GHz+ on ice watercooling during benchmarking.
Can reliably run at 4.4-4.5GHz under normal watercooling.
Thuban is a better choice as 6 cores allow for smooth multitasking.
I have a 1045T which was running at 4.05GHz 24/7 (50% OC).

Maybe I will put the Thuban back to service as a backup rig, I happen to have a spare HD7950.
It's also more efficient than my old HP server running 2xE5420.

Well, you can make it more efficient though.
Undervolt and/or underclock.
On Windows K10Stat allows custom P-states so it can be made more efficient on all loads.

Personally I 24/7 run Athlon II X2 250 on just a single core and underclocked&undervolted.
May not be as energy efficient as some newer intel but it does the job.
ROI of some new, more power efficient platform would be far too long.
It's just not worth it.

It's a thing to consider when talking about "PC beeing too power hungry".
I would just run the 965 rig until something dies.

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