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From 7700K to Ryzen 9 3900X for Gaming -- WOW

So I wanted to create this post because I wanted to comment on how hard it was to make this decision based on uneducated recommendations who thought it was a bad idea.

For some time now (5 months) since I got my 2080 Ti, I've been fighting FPS latency issues where FPS would spike up and down in certain games (Mostly all Games) at 1440P except Red Dead Redemption 2 since its probably the most graphically advanced game out in the market now that it can make a 2080 Ti down to yell Mommy. In this game, GPU would be at 99% usage and CPU Low. In most other games GPU usage would be low below 50% and CPU also low on usage. I started thinking that maybe a 7700K at even 5Ghz is still a bottleneck for a 2080 Ti at even 4k (my previous monitor was a 4k 60Hz) (my new monitor is 2k 155hz), I went above and beyond troubleshooting as simple as G-Sync settings, replaced DisplayPort Cable, FPS Caps, etc, etc, it got tiring that even swapping a whole monitor thinking it would solve the latency issue, thinking that maybe the 4k Samsung took a crap, but no. The issue still continued. I made a couple of posts highlighting this issue until one stood out about a possible bottleneck and it convinced/reassured my inner idea. This was one person and even my instincts followed as it seemed to be just that word/thought/idea vs 100 other recommendations in other forums, posts, articles about how it's useless to upgrade from a 7700k to a 3900x for just simple gaming. I pulled the trigger and purchased a 3900x and an ASUS ROG Crosshair VIII Hero (WiFi) all from Best Buy, took me about half a day to set up, crossed my fingers and like a flip of a switch - all the latency issues and FPS stutters were gone and disappeared with same copy of OS running previously. OS didn't need to be re-installed.

My point for this post is to both brag about how I was right to make the swap and hows theirs noting wrong with buying/upgrading to a 3900x for simple gaming. Also made the post to highlight possibilities of how gaming requirements have most likely changed overall due to a bunch of factors like Windows 10 updates, Spectre Security Issue for Intel, games being updated to maybe take advantage of more cores now even if their old like PUBG (PUGB is constantly getting updates). I tried waiting for Intels 10th Gen, but I couldn't bear this doubt and performance issue any longer and from what I hear is that the 10th gen is getting pushed back even further. Yeah, I could've simply gotten a 9700k or a 3700x, but I was primarily looking at 9900k/10900k budget, assuming the 10900k was going to be around the same price as the 3900x.

The 3900x is nicely polished and performs well and it also reminds me of how much I enjoyed my AMD Athlon XP-M 2300+ back in the days. I give credit and my money to the brand that demonstrates innovation. I don't consider this a rant, but rather an informative post to those looking to upgrading from a 4c/8t CPU to anything new offered in the market, even a 9700k I think would perform better. If you're having performance issues, do it.

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post #2 of 143 (permalink) Old 01-22-2020, 09:07 AM
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who said a 7700K to a 3900X wouldn't be an upgrade? lol

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If you bought the 3900x as mainly a gaming cpu you might see some benefit disabling smt.
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"theirs noting wrong with buying/upgrading to a 3900x for simple gaming."

I would normally expect enthusiasts to be self-aware, to be wholly proud to buy something pointless just because they can.

FTR, no there's nothing wrong with buying a 3900X for gaming.. just because you can. But if you seriously think it was worthwhile over a 3600 "for simple gaming", that's a yikes.

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3600's are made from the worst zen2 silicone, nothing wrong with buying a 3900x or a 3800x for the better silicone.
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I got my 9700k for $323 from Microcenter you can keep your overpriced and underperforming (in games) 3900x.
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3600's are made from the worst zen2 silicone, nothing wrong with buying a 3900x or a 3800x for the better silicone.
any cpu made from silicone is probably trash

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I got my 9700k for $323 from Microcenter you can keep your overpriced and underperforming (in games) 3900x.
What GPU do you have? What cooling? I have a 3700x with a $17 gammax 400 @ 4.3 ghz. If I have any GPU similar to yours i'd gladly see how close I can get with benchmarks or games. My total cost was $317 with the cooler

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Very happy with my 3900x/Radeon VII combo for gaming.

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