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post #21 of 116 (permalink) Old 02-26-2020, 09:09 AM
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That chip is unreal. Nobody else is going to get clocks that high with voltage so low....golden sample for sure.
Really? I'm not really familiar with how Ryzen+ chips overclock, would 1.3v be more typical for 4.1ghz on a 2600?

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I'm really happy with this chip. I got mine to 4.25 ghz at 1.4V. I ran prime95 for several hours and no crash. Max temp was 73°. I read on another post people are getting 4.2ghz on their ryzen 3600s. So the value for the money is insane on these.
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i just received my 1600 AF yesterday but i'm stuck deciding on a mobo. i dont really see myself doing any heavy editing type stuff in the near future or even upgrading my rx580 anytime soon unless i find a too good to pass up deal. I'm trying to pick between the b450 tomahawk max or Asus prime x570-p.

Here's my goal; to upgrade my i5 4570 to the ryzen platform (which i already have my 1600AF) but keep my rx580 and 550w psu and drives of course, and try to squeeze in a new case to replace my old antec 300 with a dent lol. I would like to invest in future upgrades although i dont ever see myself going as high as a 3900 because then i'd have to upgrade everything else to make use of it so I'm thinking a 3700x would be the highest i would want to go which means i would eventually also upgrade my gpu to whatever i can find for a good price later. So essentially i really only plan to use my pc for gaming and daily use obviously but i WOULD like having the option to overclock a bit or upgrade later on as long as im not spending too much on the mobo (no more than $150 in order to invest in better ram or case). Which is the better investment? Go for a great b450 board or a stripped down x570 with good vrm thermals for the sake of using the new features later down the road? I know everyone will say buy what you "need" but I dont think it's a horrible idea to invest with the future in mind either.
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i just received my 1600 AF yesterday but i'm stuck deciding on a mobo. i dont really see myself doing any heavy editing type stuff in the near future or even upgrading my rx580 anytime soon unless i find a too good to pass up deal. I'm trying to pick between the b450 tomahawk max or Asus prime x570-p.

Here's my goal; to upgrade my i5 4570 to the ryzen platform (which i already have my 1600AF) but keep my rx580 and 550w psu and drives of course, and try to squeeze in a new case to replace my old antec 300 with a dent lol. I would like to invest in future upgrades although i dont ever see myself going as high as a 3900 because then i'd have to upgrade everything else to make use of it so I'm thinking a 3700x would be the highest i would want to go which means i would eventually also upgrade my gpu to whatever i can find for a good price later. So essentially i really only plan to use my pc for gaming and daily use obviously but i WOULD like having the option to overclock a bit or upgrade later on as long as im not spending too much on the mobo (no more than $150 in order to invest in better ram or case). Which is the better investment? Go for a great b450 board or a stripped down x570 with good vrm thermals for the sake of using the new features later down the road? I know everyone will say buy what you "need" but I dont think it's a horrible idea to invest with the future in mind either.
I think you answered your own question, and the conclusion you came to is that either B450 or X470 is the way to go in your situation. And if it helps alleviate your worry, I am here to tell you that I agree.

I am in this situation where I need 3 descent computers running, mine (4K gaming/benchmarks), one for 4K home theater and gaming, and one for kids's 1080p gaming. I already had a good old Skylake rig, and an X370 rig I bought second hand for dirt cheap last year, but my kids' Haswell motherboard finally died, so I needed 1 more. I gave the kids my X370 board and 14nm Ryzen 1600, and got myself the Ryzen AF $85 and decided on an X470 board. Trust me I looked at the x570s, but I could not justify the price premium when I don't plan on buying any PCIE 4.0 devices any time soon. So I no sooner got my rig up and running, then my trusty old Z170 board dies the other night after nearly 5 years of enduring my grueling overclocks, lol. So I ordered another Ryzen AF $85, and a B450 board, again because no PCIE 4.0 devices. My NVMe drives and graphics cards are all PCIE 3.0.

The way I look at it, I'm definitely not upgrading to Ryzen 3000 series, because I'm not even maxing out my Ryzen 1600 and I'm still very GPU bound at 4K. Now if Ryzen 4000 is awesomely faster and the 600 boards are interesting, maybe I'll build one next year but I doubt I can justify it.

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hmmm x470 eh? i hadnt considered that one yet since im wanting to get something that can be compatible with 3000 series, which is why i im considering the tomahawk max. although the pro carbon looks really good but i already have a usb wifi adapter and like you said im trying to find a reason why spending the extra 30 bucks or so over the tomahawk would be worth it. just trying to get as much info from as many people and sources as i possibly can, im ready to pull the trigger on a purchase so i wanna be at least 99% confident with what im getting. A tall order, yes, but can you really blame me for trying to make the best out of a sub $300 price range?
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Well even x370 can run Ryzen 3000 and I considered some of the higher end x370 like Taichi. I thought about the B450 max boards too, but was a moot point since it's easy enough to flash a BIOS. There is merit to getting an X570 if you don't mind paying a little more. All my builds are super low budget myself.

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I'm assuming that merit is peace of mind knowing you wont have to worry about pcie 4.0 support when the tech gets there? i really wanted to pull the trigger on that x570-p prime but it seems like other than next gen pcie and better vrms theres not much else you get. i dont really see myself even getting anywhere near a 3900x or higher due to the prices but in a year or two who knows? but then again if im not even fully utilizing a 1600AF then it would be a waste of mobo to have that extra potential and never use it no? kinda like buying a ferrari chassis with a honda engine with the hopes that you score a sweet deal on a screaming v12 later. the question is do you NEED it? lol
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Newegg had the Gigabyte X570 UD motherboard on sale for $119.99 the last 2 days. It's the cheapest Full Size ATX X570 board that I have come across. At that price it was a No brainer even though it is stripped of many features, you still get the advantages of an X570 chipset. It looks like the board is back up to around $150 but if you keep an eye out, you can come across a good deal.

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actually i keep forgetting that my 1600af isnt supported on x570 lol sorry bout that. so looks like im gonna have to go with b450 for now but hey, at least i know its possible to drop in a stock 3900 in the tomahawk max and not have much issues so theres that. screw it, im going tomahawk and investing the savings into either a nicer case or a budget case and more rgb goodies.....or maybe i should just get what i actually need ????...... this is tough
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