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Will this kit work well with a 3700X?

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I watched a buildzoid video about DDR4 and this kit caught my attention in the 16Gb section. https://www.newegg.ca/team-16gb-288-...82E16820331244
I'm patiently waiting for life to start getting back to normal(when I know I'll be working again) in the next few months and hopefully upgrade my mobo/cpu/ram. I'm not too savvy on the inner workings of Ryzen CPUs with regards to FCLK and so on, I just like building and tinkering with my rigs and so I read and overclock based on what I read online.
How is that kit to pair it with a 3700X? I would probably downclock it a couple of steps and tighten the timings, or just see what the DRAM calculator says.
Any thoughts? Anyone with this kit can chime in?

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The 3xxx series no longer have the RAM compatibility problems that the first two generations had and will accept any and all RAM sticks.

Currently I am running an 8GB 2666MHz and a 16GB 3200MHz stick in a B450 board with a 2600. The RAM is running at 2800MHz as the 2666 stick can't do better and the timings are very loose but I am only testing the 3200 stick and will order another one soon. This PC isn't mine so and am ordering parts for my own PC as my friend is out of the country and can't return due to flight cancellations.

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If you're going to downclock anyway, just get a cheaper 3600 MHz kit. Something like this would be more than adequate and is priced much more reasonably.

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Quote: Originally Posted by chessmyantidrug View Post
If you're going to downclock anyway, just get a cheaper 3600 MHz kit. Something like this would be more than adequate and is priced much more reasonably.
I'm looking for B-Die that can be tightened up. That 3600Mhz kit is 16-19-19-39, if I go with 3600mhz I would rather have tighter timings and then just set XMP and forget about tweaking.

I built a R5 3600 rig for a friend with this kit https://www.newegg.ca/g-skill-16gb-2...82E16820231941 and tried doing some tweaking using the DRAM calculator to no avail. Thaiphoon Burner said that it was B-die but it didn't take any of the settings produced by the calculator.

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Top of the line, will work excellent. You will need to tweak them.

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Quote: Originally Posted by Dash8Q4 View Post
I'm looking for B-Die that can be tightened up. That 3600Mhz kit is 16-19-19-39, if I go with 3600mhz I would rather have tighter timings and then just set XMP and forget about tweaking.

I built a R5 3600 rig for a friend with this kit https://www.newegg.ca/g-skill-16gb-2...82E16820231941 and tried doing some tweaking using the DRAM calculator to no avail. Thaiphoon Burner said that it was B-die but it didn't take any of the settings produced by the calculator.
Chasing performance with RAM is one of the least cost-effective ways to do it, even on Ryzen. Since you're going with an R7 3700X, I would have expected a more cost-effective approach.

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You would not want to downclock it at all. Run it at 3600 or higher so the Infiniti Fabric is at 1800Mhz or higher, some people like me have found that you can get a stable 1:1:1 FCLK:MEMCLK:IF at 1900Mhz and others maybe only 1866. 1800Mhz though is where AMD says the shine for the IF. But that is just my opinion.

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Quote: Originally Posted by chessmyantidrug View Post
Chasing performance with RAM is one of the least cost-effective ways to do it, even on Ryzen. Since you're going with an R7 3700X, I would have expected a more cost-effective approach.
Could you point out a cost effective good kit? 3600MHz preferrably B-die or the next best thing.

The 3800X which is next after the 3700X I read is just a better binned chip. The next step up is a 3900X which as $200CAD+ difference, not the same difference between the kit I mentioned and a cost effective one(cheaper than $200CAD).

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Could you point out a cost effective good kit? 3600MHz preferrably B-die or the next best thing.

The 3800X which is next after the 3700X I read is just a better binned chip. The next step up is a 3900X which as $200CAD+ difference, not the same difference between the kit I mentioned and a cost effective one(cheaper than $200CAD).

The best speeds with any of the Ryzen 3000 series chips is 3600Mhz so you get a 1:1:1 on the FCLK:MEMCLK:IF. If you can get 3800 out if it and it is stable, the IF that is at 1900Mhz then that is better. If you go higher then the Infiniti Fabric has to be set lower as it will not run at say 2000Mhz for 4000Mhz RAM speed. Below 3600 you have a lower Infiniti Fabric so the bits all talk slower.

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Quote: Originally Posted by Dash8Q4 View Post
Could you point out a cost effective good kit? 3600MHz preferrably B-die or the next best thing.

The 3800X which is next after the 3700X I read is just a better binned chip. The next step up is a 3900X which as $200CAD+ difference, not the same difference between the kit I mentioned and a cost effective one(cheaper than $200CAD).
I pointed out a more cost-effective kit. I understand the want for B-die, but it isn't necessary. You're chasing marginal performance improvement. I never suggested getting an R9 3900X. An R7 3800X is a better bin than the R7 3700X for another $50 CAD. I'd rather spend an extra $50 CAD for a better binned CPU than $90 CAD on better RAM. Perhaps I'm underestimating the effectiveness of RAM with Ryzen, but CPU clock speed is generally a better way to get performance and an R7 3800X will run higher clocks on average. This B-die kit is currently on sale for $165 CAD.

The kit you originally asked about should work just fine. At the end of the day, it's your build and your money. All of these configurations would yield similar performance. I chased RAM performance with my X58 setup and swore I would never do it again. If you have room in the budget, go for it. I hope you aren't as disappointed as I was.

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