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post #1 of 10 (permalink) Old 05-15-2020, 02:25 AM - Thread Starter
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3950x WC Build - Shopping cart check

Hi everyone,

Before I pull the trigger on some of these, would you mind giving me your thoughts?
Main purpose will be video editing and graphic design, some ML workloads occasionally.

PC Components:
  • CPU: Ryzen 9 3950x
  • Mobo: Asus ROG Crosshair VIII Formula
  • RAM: 4x 16GB G.Skill TridentZ RGB F4-3600C17Q-64GTZR
  • PSU: Seasonic Prime PX-1000
  • Graphics Card: I will use my old GTX 970 for now until RTX 30x0 comes out
  • Storage: Seagate FireCuda 520 1TB (as I don't need a separate heatsink with the mobo) + a Samsung EVO 970 M.2 and some other drives from my current build
  • Case: Lian Li O11 Dynamic XL

Watercooling:
I'll look to put in 3x 360mm rads. I was very much inspired by Sc00ter's build here. As I'm in Europe, Alphacool rads are the easiest to come by.
  • Bottom rad: Alphacool NexXxoS Monsta 360mm (86mm thick)
  • Top rad: Alphacool NexXxoS XT45 Full Copper X-Flow 360mm Radiator (45mm thick)
  • Side rad: Alphacool NexXxoS UT60 Full Copper 360mm Radiator - White Special Edition (60mm thick)
  • CPU block: EK Water Blocks EK-Velocity AM4 D-RGB CPU Wasserkühler - Nickel + Acryl
  • Coolant: Mayhems Pastel - UV White
  • Tubing: Tygon R3400 16/10mm
  • Pump/res: Corsair Hydro X XD5 RGB White
  • Fans: ML120 Pro for bottom and side rad, LL120 for top rad
Once I switch to a new GPU I plan to add that in the loop as well.

Thoughts? Anything I'm missing?
Thanks a lot for your help.

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I recently did a build in the same case. I used a 360 x 55 mm rad at the top and originally used a 360 x 60 mm rad at the bottom but the bottom rad had a couple of leaks. So, I replaced it with a 360 x 30mm rad. I also installed a 240 x 30 mm rad on the side. I used a Singularity Protium Ultimate 150 D5/Reservoir combo. My MB is a GB X570 Aorus Extreme. With the 55mm thick rad installed in the top position along with the fans there is very little clearance between it the MB which made it some what difficult to install it along with 2 8pin EPS cables plugged into the MB at the top left. With original 60mm thick rad at the bottom clearance was marginal but workable. The 30mm thick rad I ultimately used provide better clearance. Part of the clearance issue is the use of E-ATX MB.


Your 86mm thick bottom rad along with fans will probably cause clearance issues. Would suggest going no thicker than 60mm.

The 45mm thick top rad should be fine. The 60mm thick rad for the side will probably be to thick, suggest no more than 45mm thick for that rad.
The build you reference is using 3 360x38mm rads.


Good luck with the build.

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I recently did a build in the same case. I used a 360 x 55 mm rad at the top and originally used a 360 x 60 mm rad at the bottom but the bottom rad had a couple of leaks. So, I replaced it with a 360 x 30mm rad. I also installed a 240 x 30 mm rad on the side. I used a Singularity Protium Ultimate 150 D5/Reservoir combo. My MB is a GB X570 Aorus Extreme. With the 55mm thick rad installed in the top position along with the fans there is very little clearance between it the MB which made it some what difficult to install it along with 2 8pin EPS cables plugged into the MB at the top left. With original 60mm thick rad at the bottom clearance was marginal but workable. The 30mm thick rad I ultimately used provide better clearance. Part of the clearance issue is the use of E-ATX MB.


Your 86mm thick bottom rad along with fans will probably cause clearance issues. Would suggest going no thicker than 60mm.

The 45mm thick top rad should be fine. The 60mm thick rad for the side will probably be to thick, suggest no more than 45mm thick for that rad.
The build you reference is using 3 360x38mm rads.


Good luck with the build.
Thanks for the comments!

I was watching this vid for the radiator clearances:

According to this video I should be able to fit both of those rads:
  • The 86mm thick bottom rad with fans will indeed stick past the bottom of the ATX motherboard, but as I only mount one graphics card this should be OK?
  • The 60mm rad on the side if I mount the fans behind in the other compartment

Is your experience different?

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I guess what you want to do will work it just makes it more cramped in my opinion. As far as the side rad thickness it probably won't be an issue but for me it was because my top rad is 55mm thick before the fans which mad it kinda of difficult to get to the side rad ports. I too mounted the side rad fans on the back side.

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Hard Drive
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Optimus Foundation water block/custome loop with 360 rad.
Case
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Thanks for the comments!

I was watching this vid for the radiator clearances: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EO6fVAkWINo&t=370s

According to this video I should be able to fit both of those rads:
  • The 86mm thick bottom rad with fans will indeed stick past the bottom of the ATX motherboard, but as I only mount one graphics card this should be OK?
  • The 60mm rad on the side if I mount the fans behind in the other compartment

Is your experience different?
You should be fine with one 1st slot mounted GPU. I have 2 and can fit a 60 with fans in the bottom, it's tight, but it works. You should be fine @86mm, though do consider, make sure your plan to water cool and mount a res to your side fans/rad, do not buy one larger than 240mm as you will need the bottom 120mm fan for clearance for the rad.

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Thank you, both!
Pulled the trigger yesterday, looking forward to building this machine! I finally went with a 2080Ti as well, so I can build the entire loop at once.

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Thank you, both!
Pulled the trigger yesterday, looking forward to building this machine! I finally went with a 2080Ti as well, so I can build the entire loop at once.
If you need any help what so ever that I can do to help your build, don't hesitate.

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You should be fine with one 1st slot mounted GPU. I have 2 and can fit a 60 with fans in the bottom, it's tight, but it works. You should be fine @86mm, though do consider, make sure your plan to water cool and mount a res to your side fans/rad, do not buy one larger than 240mm as you will need the bottom 120mm fan for clearance for the rad.
out of curiosity, if only 1 gpu, could you fit a 60mm rad and fans in push and pull at the bottom?
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out of curiosity, if only 1 gpu, could you fit a 60mm rad and fans in push and pull at the bottom?
Good question. Assuming your GPU was mounted in the 1st slot in a non-vertical configuration and your res was mounted high enough, yes.
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out of curiosity, if only 1 gpu, could you fit a 60mm rad and fans in push and pull at the bottom?
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Good question. Assuming your GPU was mounted in the 1st slot in a non-vertical configuration and your res was mounted high enough, yes.
I will try to go for push/pull with an 86mm rad. I'll post pictures once the rads come in.

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