Originally Posted by CPhoenix
Like the title says, I'm a newb. And I've been out of the loop from building my own rig for about 8 years, so a lot has changed.
Background: I produce music. I will also do some light video production (nothing fancy, just simple YouTube videos). That's it. No gaming, this is all for music production in a DAW (Studio One, RME UCX interface). There's just so much to choose from. I am upgrading from an i7 3930K that I've had overclocked to 4.2ghz with a Noctua fan cooler for over 8 years (it's been so solid for me). But, i've finally hit the ceiling in my DAW, so it's time to upgrade. I've decided I am going with the 3950X and I could sincerely use some help with the following:
1) What chipset should I purchase?
It looks like there are several to choose from. I've been researching for a couple of days but I still feel a bit lost.
I was looking at X570 vs X470. I'm leaning towards X470 b/c I read it has much less power consumption (I read it's 5W vs 15W). That's a huge difference, and the idea of saving on my electric bill is a big plus.
2) What type of overclock can I expect versus the X570? If I go with the lower powered X470, will I be crying the blues because my overclock sucks?
3) Is there another chipset that would better suit me that I'm not considering?
This is hardware I want to attach to the motherboard:
1) Firewire PCIe card (standard TI chipset, I need this to connect my RME UCX interface. It's a must have. Will I experience issues with my firewire card? I've read that ASUS mobos have serious compatibility issues with these cards, so I'll be avoiding them and looking at ASRock or MSI. Any knowledge about this would be greatly appreciated)
2) I would like one of those NVMe SSD's connected via M2. The idea of that kind of speed for my system drive is very enticing
3) 3 SSD SATA drives minimum
4) Video card for 2-3 monitors, modest hardware acceleration for video rendering. Nothing fancy. Hopefully I can find one that only takes up one slot worth of space
5) One UAD card (possibly 2)
6) The more USB ports on the mobo the better.
7) Built-in wifi would be nice but not a deal breaker.
So overall, I think I need 4 PCIe slots, but I wouldn't be mad with 3.
Any help or direction with the above would be amazing. I've been research everything by myself for over a week and I haven't gotten further than deciding the CPU. I'm totally stuck on this chipset decision
Originally Posted by CPhoenix
Any help at all?
I can try to help ya.
So first. I switched to USB Interfaces a long time ago, but I do have a few clients still using Firewire. They all use either The Crosshair VII Hero (x470), the Crosshair VIII Hero (x570) or the Asus WS x570.
First of all, as The Pook said, don't worry about the x570 Chipset, the extra 10w max are not going to add any noticeable difference to your system as far as power draw, its literally 1% on the overall power draw of the system under full load. If you are going Ryzen, its definitely advisable to go x570, simply because you will be able to upgrade in the future to at least the 4000 series, giving you more IPC and processing power, although the 3000 Series is plenty already.
If going with the ASUS Crosshair VIII Hero (Which I would recommend, the last problems with ASUS and the TI Chipset were back in the Z170 days, and were resolved back then), You will have 3 x16 PCIE4 Slots, and 1 PCIE4 x1 Slot. When Using every single Slot, your First 2 Will Run at x8, the 3rd will Run at by 4, and the x1 will Run at x1. You won't find a board on x470 that will allow you to run this configuration (without cutting Sata Ports, NVMe Slots, or Both), which is another reason why x570 is the Better Option for your use case.
Your Firewire card is only PCIE 1.0 x1, so I would put that in the x1 Slot.
Current Gen UAD Cards are now only x1, So You can Place Your GPU in the First Slot, Then Place any Remaining UAD Cards in the 2nd and 3rd PCIe Slots.
Also the Crosshair VIII Hero also has a Wifi Version that will come with Wifi Onboard (Although In a DAW Room, you should ALWAYS be running Ethernet), and still will give you 2 x4 M.2 Slots For NVMe SSDs, plus 8 SATA Ports.
This is similar to the Config I run for my clients in the Studios around town that have Control Studios or DAW Rooms that use PC. Most of these are Primarily Pro Tools Based Systems, but they of course have pretty much any PC Compatible DAE Software loaded on them, so that the Producer/Engineer can use which ever software they are most Comfortable With. I also have a few that Use the UAD Cards, so I know you will have no issues with that, or the Firewire Card.
This particular Motherboard also comes Loaded with 12 USB3.0 Ports, 8 are 10Gbps ports, 4 are 5Gbps Ports. It also comes loaded with an Intel 1Gbps Nic, and an Aquantia 2.5Gbps Nic. So in terms of I/O, it really is the perfect Production Board.
In some limited cases having 3 x8 PCIE4 Slots are more desirable, and in that case the ASUS x570 WS Board is the best option. However on that board you loose the x1 Slot, and you still need a graphics card, so in your case this board would be pointless, because 2 of your x8 slots would be taken up by Cards that won't utilize that bandwidth, and then you will use a bunch of IO, plus no ability to expand to a 2nd UAD card.
As far as Graphics card, the 2 best options for you would be either the 1660 TI Super, or the RTX 2060 KO. Both will be a tad over powered for what you will need it for, especially the RTX 2060 KO, but the KO will give you Tensor Cores that although won't be much help to you now will almost certainly come in handy for acceleration tasks in the future once developers have had a while to find good uses for them. If you don't want the Tensor Cores, then the 1660ti is the best option because it still has enough Cuda cores to help with current acceleration tasks. Almost all my Studios are kitted with one of these Cards.
I found the 3900x to be the most balanced chip, and is usually on sale, and will get the job done nicely. However if you can afford the 3950x, the extra 4 Cores definitely can be put to good use, especially if you are a Plugin Junky. Although a lot of your workload will be handled by your UAD Card when using UAD Plugins, but I use a heavy Mix of Both UAD and Waves in my Projects, along with all kinds of other powerful Synth Plugins, so when you have a heavy mix like that, as long as you kit out the necessary Ram (Don't go below 32GB, 64GB is HIGHLY Recommended), both the 3900x and the 3950x will handle this masterfully.
Also, to keep latency Low you will want to Load Process Lasso onto your system, the free version works just fine, and make sure to set your DAE Application to High Priority, set Windows to prefer Background Processes, and Use at least a 3200Mhz CL14 Kit of Ram, as this combination will take care of those wonky Latency issues that were an issue at launch on the platform.
Thats it, follow that general advice, and you should be fine! Good Luck!