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post #21 of 28 (permalink) Old 05-26-2020, 11:25 PM
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Atleast now you learned that not all CPUs can use the same application method.
My 9900K performs better with the X method.
Otherwise i have always used pea sized dot.

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Atleast now you learned that not all CPUs can use the same application method.
My 9900K performs better with the X method.
Otherwise i have always used pea sized dot.
Same with Gen2 cos of the placement of the dies. The red lines indicate where i applied the paste.

Someone even came up with a tool.

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Can you post a HWInfo64 screen shot, while running prime95 for a few minutes ?

If 86C is running AVX2/FMA3 than that is not that bad!

I posted to you a screenshot of my rig running prime95 smallest FFTs so you could compare and I have a custom watercooled rig.

Good that you found a way to improve you temperatures

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...1fLT7hV8f0.png

Ram overclock is set, but other than that all stock settings, running NON avx prime95 small FFT's.

Notice how much less power my cpu is using than yours and is still running hot. :/

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But you never answered some of the basic questions I asked, like what is the ambient temperature, whats the airflow like in your case etc etc
Erm that was in the OP:
"Ambient Temperature: 21°C - 22°C"

"Results: 88°C maximum, 87°C average, taken 20 minutes after reaching thermal equilibrium.

Second test with the only difference being the front panel of the case being removed and the dust filter is removed:

Results: 85°C maximum, 83°C average, taken 20 minutes after reaching thermal equilibrium."

"Cooler: Corsair H115i Extreme, with 4 Corsair SP140 fans mounted in push/pull, cooler mounted at the front of the case pulling fresh cool air in."

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Quote: Originally Posted by Socks keep you warm View Post
Atleast now you learned that not all CPUs can use the same application method.
My 9900K performs better with the X method.
Otherwise i have always used pea sized dot.
I was always under the assumption that thermal paste application method didn't matter as long as whatever method you used resulted in the entire IHS being covered by thermal paste.

But I guess not?
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Quote: Originally Posted by MuzzleFuzzle View Post
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...1fLT7hV8f0.png

Ram overclock is set, but other than that all stock settings, running NON avx prime95 small FFT's.

Notice how much less power my cpu is using than yours and is still running hot. :/


Erm that was in the OP:
"Ambient Temperature: 21°C - 22°C"

"Results: 88°C maximum, 87°C average, taken 20 minutes after reaching thermal equilibrium.

Second test with the only difference being the front panel of the case being removed and the dust filter is removed:

Results: 85°C maximum, 83°C average, taken 20 minutes after reaching thermal equilibrium."

"Cooler: Corsair H115i Extreme, with 4 Corsair SP140 fans mounted in push/pull, cooler mounted at the front of the case pulling fresh cool air in."
Hi!

Thanks for posting back those results.

Real sorry, I missed you posted the ambient temp, was going off the OCCT screenshot.

Yes, that does not look right, especially considering you are not running AVX work loads.

If you run an AVX workload is it hitting 90C+ ??

If I was in your position, if possible, I would try the CPU in a different motherboard, failing that I think you should start an RMA with AMD, why do I suggest AMD, because the likely hood is that they will return to you a CPU that is from new stock and if you have been keeping track of things the new ones are real nice in terms of power draw and clock speeds!


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Ive got an R5 3600 here, just put a largeish pile of paste on the middle. You want 100% coverage of the IHS after you mount the cooler, no dry spots at all. Multiple dabs of paste can lead to voids in the final coverage. Mounting pressure for most screw down heatsinks also far exceed what is needed to achieve even spreading of a good sized blob.

Another problem with thin pasting is the fact that the IHS and heatsinks are not flat. They will have a slightly high or low area in the center. Combine that with the MCM nature of the Ryzen 3000 series package and you can run into problems. I find that slightly too much paste is far better than not quite enough.

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Quote: Originally Posted by MuzzleFuzzle View Post
I was always under the assumption that thermal paste application method didn't matter as long as whatever method you used resulted in the entire IHS being covered by thermal paste.

But I guess not?
That's correct, but pea sized dot is known to not cover the IHS most of the time hence X method being adopted occasionally or even straight line.

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Is your 3600 from the new batches of 2020 ?

Look at my posts in here

The CPU is for a friend, runs crazy hot according to sensors but it does not seem to be throttling....

Its a March 2020....

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