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Ryzen 3000 - Temp and Vcore ARE NORMAL ?

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I noticed that my Ryzen 3800X ( stock settings, no overclock ) on my Asus X370 PRO run in full load with voltage around 1.45V but sometimes some peak of 1.500V with core frequency until to slightly less than 4500Mhz.
Inside the uefi bios the vcore is everytime at 1.460V, in Windows is between 0.9V and about 1.45v ( more or less ).

This can be normal as stock settings ?

The temperature seems high, i have a Noctua U14S with fan setted to 390rpm until 65° and during a game my temp is around 75° with 26° ambient temperature.
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It is difficult to say but your temps during gaming seems somewhat high. Did you try to do a negative off-set vcore voltage, like -0.025 to -0.05 vcore and see what your temps are and if stable. Just asking as one of the nice ways to get added performance with the Zen2 AMD Ryzen processors is a negative vcore off-set. It might be worth trying. Not that the 75C is anything to worry about but I'd say it might be better in the 65C range or there about when gaming. Let me know if it helps.

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Sorry i done a mistake.
Temp in gaming is around 67-69° after 1 hour of gaming.
Ambient temperature is everytime 26°.

With a negative offset -0.05V can i get an huge improve of temperature or only a sliyghtly improvement ?

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Well the 67 - 69C does not sound too bad, but I'd still try and do a negative vcore off-set and maybe lower it even more.

Let me know if it works.

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With a negative offset -0.05V can i get an huge improve of temperature or only a slight improvement ?

For example, we are talking about 2-3° or about 10° ?
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asus. even my cheap ASUS PRIME B450M-A does the same on "auto" with PBO DISABLED. only way to lower temps is to either disable all bost, ( LOL) or set X fixed multi + low v core ( 4.2 GHZ at 1.1v # r5 3600) 16c drop im LOAD temp, 50W* less load power from wall, EDIT- NEGATIVE offset = marginal lower temps, and crapier scores. not worth it)
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Quote: Originally Posted by senna89 View Post
Sorry i done a mistake.
Temp in gaming is around 67-69° after 1 hour of gaming.
Ambient temperature is everytime 26°.

With a negative offset -0.05V can i get an huge improve of temperature or only a sliyghtly improvement ?
That sounds about right for a 3800X and an NH-U14.

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Ok but this Vcore range in stock settings is correct for this CPU ?
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Ok but this Vcore range in stock settings is correct for this CPU ?
1.3 -1.4v at full load although they may be different on different CPU specimens.

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Quote: Originally Posted by senna89 View Post
Hi

I noticed that my Ryzen 3800X ( stock settings, no overclock ) on my Asus X370 PRO run in full load with voltage around 1.45V but sometimes some peak of 1.500V with core frequency until to slightly less than 4500Mhz.
Inside the uefi bios the vcore is everytime at 1.460V, in Windows is between 0.9V and about 1.45v ( more or less ).

This can be normal as stock settings ?

The temperature seems high, i have a Noctua U14S with fan setted to 390rpm until 65° and during a game my temp is around 75° with 26° ambient temperature.
Pretty much expected behavior
This is 7nm which updates every 5-20ms
You can NOT track the correct voltage of it, with no tool - only average voltage

pushing a voltage offset only results in negative bad performance and clock stretching
Which is to show virtual visual frequency, which is never held for long enough (because the voltage is too low)

You should disable PBO and enable CPPC inside the bios
then let the amd powerplan handle the rest
no high performance plans
The cpu is made to boost up till 95c , while it will throttle at 85c
Normal behavior, even for current GPUs

75c is nothing, only worry if you constantly peak 90c
but disable PBO and don't use high performance powerplans
If you still want less performance and less heat, youcan limit the maximum TDP - cTDP inside the bios
We can teach you later if need it ~ but it's common behavior
You can lower thermals tho if you lower VDDP,VDDG,VSOC ~ but that's another big topic

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