R5 3600 New Overclocker Pls Help
Hi, so this is my first post. I just got in my AIO (Corsair 240mm) a couple of days ago and began trying to OC my new Ryzen 5 3600. I've done some research in the past and did a lot more yesterday to try to understand what I'm doing/what's safe/etc., but there's so much conflicting information and there is still so much I don't know, so I have a lot of questions and am looking for a little help.
I have read a decent bit from people saying that there is no point in overclocking this CPU because it cannot be done "safely" while still getting any meaningful gains, so I'm not sure if that is the general consensus, but I'd still like to try. If that is your opinion though, feel free to let me know. I do not want to damage or degrade my CPU, but I do want to push it and see how much I can get out of it (even if there will be no noticeable day-to-day gain). This is my first PC build and I am just falling in love with everything about it and am super intrigued by overclocking. My plan/hope is to get started in Ryzen Master and then when I find an OC I like, try to get the same thing going through BIOS (maybe tweak it more from there, maybe not, if my knowledge at that point permits it/if there is anything left to do).
So the first thing I would love some input on is voltage. In Ryzen Master, there is only one input for voltage (at least that I'm aware of - "Peak Core(s) Voltage"), so if anyone talks about anything more than that, please explain what you are talking about and what I need to do to work with that. But I'll just be talking about that voltage. I've read that a "safe" voltage is any of 1.4, 1.35, 1.25, and that there is no general, all-encompassing "safe" voltage. I would love to know what y'all look to as a general rule of thumb for max voltage on this CPU or if you also think there is no magic "safe" number. Right now I've mostly been playing around with OCs with voltages around 1.25 V.
I thought that should be fine since the default voltage number there is closer to 1.3-1.4, but I was reading a Reddit thread discussing this exactly and someone was saying that default is very different than when you do a manual all-core OC and that that should be done at a much lower voltage. He said that the max "safe" voltage for any R5 3600 is different and that you can find it by putting the CPU to default with PBO on and running Prime 95 Small FFTs, and while that is going on, opening HWInfo and monitoring the voltage "SVI2 TFN CPU". He said the minimum or average that this number hits under load is the max voltage one should be setting for an all-core OC like I am (at least if I was understanding everything he said correctly). For his 3900X, this was determined to be 1.212 V so he's saying he cannot safely OC past that. At that voltage, he could only get to 4.3 GHz, and with the CPU on default with PBO he was getting single-core boosts up to 4.6 GHz, so this was the basis of his argument that it isn't worth overclocking his CPU either.
I tried to determine my "safe" voltage this way and the number I was seeing was around 1.08-1.09 V...Does what he's saying/my number sound right?? I surely hope that is not my max safe voltage. Running the same test with default + PBO and with a 4.3 GHz all-core OC at 1.25 V, that number was the exact same (1.08-1.09 V), so I'm not sure if that means anything, but if that number isn't changing, I don't see how the tested OC is any better or worse for the CPU based on what he's saying alone as my setting it above that determined max voltage.
Also if anyone has any comments about my current OC, they're more than welcome. I still plan to mess with it more when I get time, but right now its at 4.3 GHz with 1.25 V. It made it through Prime 95 for an hour with no issues (max temp 78 C). I let it run for 10 minutes in Prime 95 Small and it hit a max temp of 78 C and was fine (though it was only 10 minutes). In Fortnite at Ultra settings it never gets above 51 C (GPU is heavily limiting here; I have a bad one). And in Cinebench R20, the max temp I saw was 63 C with a score of 3670. Also, from looking around that score seems a little low - am I just imagining things or am I right to be wishing for more there? And is there anything I can do to get that score up aside from simply cranking up the OC more or nah?
Also, if I'm running a test in Prime 95 and some of the workers have an error and stop while the rest keep going, even though it didn't crash, that's not a stable OC, right?
Okay, that's enough for now. Please provide any feedback on anything you can. I a very open/eager to learn. I'd also be happy to answer any questions anyone has about my setting/PC components/etc. Also sorry this was so long. Thank you everyone!