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post #2191 of 2202 (permalink) Old 02-10-2019, 02:36 PM
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2 sticks ( 2x8)
More precisely F4-3200c14d 16gtzr kit
3466 is the most I've been able to get out of my 32gb kit of the same GTZR pn - only running half of it but that wasn't completely stable 3333 is very close. I haven't tried it on the newest bios however.

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OK, just flashed to the latest BIOS.

New adjustments are available as pointed out by cssorkinman (also saw cTDP adjustment).

Not touched any of the new adjustments yet.

First will be loading up my known '24/7 stable' settings and doing comparative tests to see if there are any performance/stability differences with the new BIOS.

But before I deluge into that something I noticed straight away and wanted to point that out right now.

On the last BIOS I as on (7A31v1H) and using RTC the

VDDCR_SoC (V) was 1.0188

On the latest BIOS

VDDCR_SoC (V) is 1.0438

Now we dont have options to control this value, and this value is clearly different.

Can anybody confirm they are seeing a similar change in the VDDCR_SoC on the new BIOS.

Im hoping this higher SOC voltage will correct by cold boot issues and allow a higher mem clock!



** EDIT **
Just to clarify
VDDCR_SoC (V) is the CPU-NB voltage. Ive always had it set at 1.05v in the bios

After several reboots the values varies between 1.03x - 1.04x

CPU-NB LLC is on Auto.

Also something I didnt mention (which may be influencing this).

We now have option for using an offset voltage for both CPU and CPU-NB

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Ryzen 5 1600X 1740SUT @ 4.0 Ghz | 1.3625v | LLC 3
GSkill TridentZ F4-3600C15D-16GTZ @ 3333 mhz | 1.36v | 14-14-14-14-30-44-267
Asus GTX 780 DCII OC @ 1332/3522 mhz | 1.3v
Samsung 960 EVO 500GB
EK-FB MSI X370 XPower RGB Monoblock | 1/2" ID
Swiftech D5 MCP655 | EK-XRES 100 Revo D5
Alphacool NexXxoS UT60 280 | 4 x Scythe GT AP-15 @ 5v
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I cant get more than 3200 stable in this board.
I have a 3200c14 b die kit (trident z) and just 3200 fast from 1usmus calculator works (had to rttNom 60 to cure a single error)
3200 extreme make board freeze in a random post Code during post( dont know why, anyone?) and higher than 3200 it seems to only boot with procODT 60 but highly unstable, lots of errors and bsods.
It seems to be related with this last rtt and cad signaling settings but i cant find a stable combination unfortunally.
If someone can achieve more than 3200 on b die with this board can share the config? Or some advice?
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Hi, my memory is similar to yours.

See my 24/7 stable settings in the RTC screen grab below (and aida64 for reference).

I occasionally get cold boot issue at these settings, but they are stable for everything else I do.

Try them out and let us know.

I was never able to get anything more stable than 3200mhz, 3300mhz I could run no issue, everyday use, games, bechmarks etc etc but when priming for extended periods would fail
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24/7 Settings - Closed Case Rig
Prime95 | Custom 14000mb | Stable +6 hrs
SeaSonic X750 Gold 750W
MSI X370 XPOWER Gaming Titanium
Ryzen 5 1600X 1740SUT @ 4.0 Ghz | 1.3625v | LLC 3
GSkill TridentZ F4-3600C15D-16GTZ @ 3333 mhz | 1.36v | 14-14-14-14-30-44-267
Asus GTX 780 DCII OC @ 1332/3522 mhz | 1.3v
Samsung 960 EVO 500GB
EK-FB MSI X370 XPower RGB Monoblock | 1/2" ID
Swiftech D5 MCP655 | EK-XRES 100 Revo D5
Alphacool NexXxoS UT60 280 | 4 x Scythe GT AP-15 @ 5v
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post #2194 of 2202 (permalink) Old 02-12-2019, 01:01 AM
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So even though I am still displeased with regards to my max RAM stable speed, I am very happy with the boost in performance from simply raising the bclk clock to 102 mhz.

Before these adjustments were available to us, using only the AMD inbuilt boost speeds for my 2600x I had the following results in core speed frequencies.

Under serious CPU stress test (prime95, Linpack etc) my CPU all core frequency would be around 3940-3960 mhz.

Now my CPU all core frequency is around 4030 - 4050 mhz.

Single core boost show similar frequency improvement.

This I am very happy with



I have not had time to bench but I ran 10 iterations of Linpack and a 15min run on Realbench and the system was stable.

A quick Cinebench before score was 1356 after the bclk boost its not 1416

So far have not seen any negative issues, waiting to see if the cold boot issue I was occasionally having is resolved and also a weird issue I was having with my EVO 960 where something weird would happen when the device is first initialized in which it would be extremely slow, i.e. first post screen would take over 1 minutes to appear and Windows would take over 5 minutes to load with everything crawling.

Solution would be to power down a couple of times then it would be OK.

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Ryzen 5 1600X 1740SUT @ 4.0 Ghz | 1.3625v | LLC 3
GSkill TridentZ F4-3600C15D-16GTZ @ 3333 mhz | 1.36v | 14-14-14-14-30-44-267
Asus GTX 780 DCII OC @ 1332/3522 mhz | 1.3v
Samsung 960 EVO 500GB
EK-FB MSI X370 XPower RGB Monoblock | 1/2" ID
Swiftech D5 MCP655 | EK-XRES 100 Revo D5
Alphacool NexXxoS UT60 280 | 4 x Scythe GT AP-15 @ 5v
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Very positive results



After implementing a few tricks, ones we could not do before because certain features were not available to us, ive managed to increase my all core boost by almost 150 mhz, with less voltage and less stress on the mosfets



Basically all core boost under prime95/linpack extreme is now around 4100mhz +/- 20mhz

Single core boost over 4300mhz

Cinebench R15 - 1423

Very very satisfied



Tricks/settings

1. BCLK - 102 mhz
2. CPU Load Line Calibration - Level 8
3. CPU NB Load Line Calibration - Level 2
4. CPU Vcore Offset Mode - minus 0.0125v
5. PBO - Manual
6. PPT Limit - 140W
7. TDC Limit - 95A
8. EDC Limit - 140A
9. Relaxed EDC Throttling - Enabled
10. Spread Spectrum - Disabled
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SeaSonic X750 Gold 750W
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Ryzen 5 1600X 1740SUT @ 4.0 Ghz | 1.3625v | LLC 3
GSkill TridentZ F4-3600C15D-16GTZ @ 3333 mhz | 1.36v | 14-14-14-14-30-44-267
Asus GTX 780 DCII OC @ 1332/3522 mhz | 1.3v
Samsung 960 EVO 500GB
EK-FB MSI X370 XPower RGB Monoblock | 1/2" ID
Swiftech D5 MCP655 | EK-XRES 100 Revo D5
Alphacool NexXxoS UT60 280 | 4 x Scythe GT AP-15 @ 5v
Thermochill PA120.3 | 1 x SST-FN123 | 2 x Scythe GT AP-15 | @ 5v

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1.4V on load seems a bit high. I cant rise more than 101 or memory becomes unstable.
Also, how did you calculate the values for manual pbo?
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1.4V on load seems a bit high. I cant rise more than 101 or memory becomes unstable.
Also, how did you calculate the values for manual pbo?
Values are from researching across various forums.

My understanding is that the values I am using will guarantee maxing boost clocks without any sort of throttling, though this is tandem with how cool the CPU will be running.

All core load voltage is not 1.4V its around 1.35v.

The voltages are determined based on AMD's algorithms with regards to how the boost clock mechanisms work.

I am water cooled so have no issues with temps.

24/7 Settings - Closed Case Rig
Prime95 | Custom 14000mb | Stable +6 hrs
SeaSonic X750 Gold 750W
MSI X370 XPOWER Gaming Titanium
Ryzen 5 1600X 1740SUT @ 4.0 Ghz | 1.3625v | LLC 3
GSkill TridentZ F4-3600C15D-16GTZ @ 3333 mhz | 1.36v | 14-14-14-14-30-44-267
Asus GTX 780 DCII OC @ 1332/3522 mhz | 1.3v
Samsung 960 EVO 500GB
EK-FB MSI X370 XPower RGB Monoblock | 1/2" ID
Swiftech D5 MCP655 | EK-XRES 100 Revo D5
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I can finally get 3200MHz CL14 running on the newest BIOS. Having the option to use offsets for setting voltage is also very nice. Now if only MSI would re-enable the CPU temp readout on the board...

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New BIOS!

7A31v1K, Release Date:2019-01-31

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/supp...-TITANIUM.html

Not had time to try it....

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Prime95 | Custom 14000mb | Stable +6 hrs
SeaSonic X750 Gold 750W
MSI X370 XPOWER Gaming Titanium
Ryzen 5 1600X 1740SUT @ 4.0 Ghz | 1.3625v | LLC 3
GSkill TridentZ F4-3600C15D-16GTZ @ 3333 mhz | 1.36v | 14-14-14-14-30-44-267
Asus GTX 780 DCII OC @ 1332/3522 mhz | 1.3v
Samsung 960 EVO 500GB
EK-FB MSI X370 XPower RGB Monoblock | 1/2" ID
Swiftech D5 MCP655 | EK-XRES 100 Revo D5
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I can finally get 3200MHz CL14 running on the newest BIOS. Having the option to use offsets for setting voltage is also very nice. Now if only MSI would re-enable the CPU temp readout on the board...
I have bios 1.6 installed and I am dismayed. There no longer is any way to set SOC/CPU/NB voltage. I was setting it at 1.05 volts and I see no way to do that now. If someone can help me out on this. I have no interest in offset settings so do not involve me in that.

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