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No, i do have socket temp.

I had another temp below CPU (Tcl/Tdie) which was gray, when i looked again its gone lol. Weird stuff going on with RYZEN lmao.
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No, i do have socket temp.

I had another temp below CPU (Tcl/Tdie) which was gray, when i looked again its gone lol. Weird stuff going on with RYZEN lmao.

Exactly what happens to me.. But the opposite.

Cpu Socket temp was gray and its gone. Only have CPU Tcl/Tdie. MI Skew Disabled.

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Exactly what happens to me.. But the opposite.

Cpu Socket temp was gray and its gone. Only have CPU Tcl/Tdie. MI Skew Disabled.

I have this MI Skew disabled as well, maybe that's it? thinking.gif

Sooo many settings that its almost impossible to understand them all unless you are some kind of engineer or something lol.
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Time Spy: http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/21070566

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Impressive indeed, now post it in the thread i provided earlier. I would like to see those Intel fanboys reactions to this lol.
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Does PLL have abnormal affect on temperature sensors?

tl;dr No, not with my HW and OC profile.

Who am I?

I am a PC enthusiast with no PC HW/SW qualification and no association with a company in this context.

Test case

CPU: R7 1700 UA 1709PGT
RAM: F4-3200C14D-16GTZ
MOBO: C6H rev.1.03
HSF: ThermalRight Archon IB-E X2 with 2x TY143

Case has side panel on for testing, as that is how normally rig is used. Room ambient ~25°C, internal setup as shown below.



UEFI settings were my usual 3.8/3333 Fast setup.

UA1709PGT_3.8_3333_Fast.zip 7k .zip file

Only PLL was changed from 1.8V to 1.75V and then 1.85V.

Test data

RAW data zip with screenies / HWINFO CSV log

1.8V PLL



1.75V PLL



1.85V PLL



FAQ

i) Where do I get the stress test? it is linked in OP of my thread in my signature.

ii) Was Sense MI Skew disabled? yes, as I have always done that on all UEFIs as gave me "realistic" temps as I have a R7 1700 with no temp offset.

iii) Do you think the temperature data is correct? IMO yes from past experience with HW/SW.

iv) What was polling rate in HWiNFO? 1000ms.

v) Why is your BCLK 100MHz? I have it manually set as that in UEFI and HWINFO is set to only take a one time reading at launch, so there will be no fluctuation for BCLK.

vi) Why is 1.8V PLL test screenie showing a lower min CPU socket temp compared with others? the rig had been powered off for some time prior to testing. I had powered it on and let it idle before testing. I can only assume the variation between that test and later ones is down to case ambient / socket changed slightly via from usage. Between each test the rig was allowed to idle so temperatures at start of 1.75V & 1.85V testing should be relatively "idle" situation.

vii) Why test this? there has been much discussion on PLL changes affecting temperature readings. As I had relied on others data in past I thought it was time to test for myself and have another facet testing to compare with a R7 1800X which I will have later this week.

viii) Will you be doing testing on R7 1800X? yes.

ix) Do I adjust PLL? nope not needed to so far.

x) Why adjust it? some have gained stability with it, so I would say a owner needs to decide what they do.

xi) What is a safe voltage to use? really no idea, Elmor has touched on it's case usage in the OC PDF in OP, there is a table within his PDF with guidance.
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Does PLL have abnormal affect on temperature sensors?

tl;dr No, not with my HW and OC profile.

Who am I?

I am a PC enthusiast with no PC HW/SW qualification and no association with a company in this context.

Test case

CPU: R7 1700 UA 1709PGT
RAM: F4-3200C14D-16GTZ
MOBO: C6H rev.1.03
HSF: ThermalRight Archon IB-E X2 with 2x TY143

Case has side panel on, room ambient ~25°C, internal setup as shown below.



UEFI settings were my usual 3.8/3333 Fast setup.

UA1709PGT_3.8_3333_Fast.zip 7k .zip file

Only PLL was changed from 1.8V to 1.75V and then 1.85V.

Test data

RAW data zip with screenies / HWINFO CSV log

1.8V PLL



1.75V PLL



1.85V PLL



FAQ

i) Where do I get the stress test? it is linked in OP of my thread in my signature.

ii) Was Sense MI Skew disabled? yes, as I have always done that on all UEFIs as gave me "realistic" temps as I have a R7 1700 with no temp offset.

iii) Do you think the temperature data is correct? IMO yes from past experience with HW/SW.

iv) What was polling rate in HWiNFO? 1000ms.

v) Why is your BCLK 100MHz? I have it manually set as that in UEFI and HWINFO is set to only take a one time reading at launch, so there will be no fluctuation for BCLK.

vi) Why is 1.8V PLL test screenie showing a lower min CPU socket temp compared with others? the rig had been powered off for some time prior to testing. I had powered it on and let it idle before testing. I can only assume the variation between that test and later ones is down to case ambient / socket changed slightly via from usage.

vii) Why test this? there has been much discussion on PLL changes affecting temperature readings. As I had relied on others data in past I thought it was time to test for myself and have another facet testing to compare with a R7 1800X which I will have later this week.

viii) Do I adjust PLL? nope not needed to so far.

ix) Why adjust it? some have gained stability with it, so I would say a owner needs to decide what they do.

x) What is a safe voltage to use? really no idea, Elmor has touched on it's case usage in the OC PDF in OP, there is a table within his PDF with guidance.

@mus1mus Did you test this also?
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Seems like I'm getting the best runs for Ryzen CPUs and single 1080 Ti.


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Try:-

Below appears when clicking settings in the launch screen.



Below appears when HWiNFO launched to show "Sensors" and clicking "Configure Sensors" icon by cross at bottom of sensors display.



Then also do this:-



I do let HWiNFO use ASUS EC when asked.

That is all I l know, what a greyed out value means has been stated by Mumak here and you can get help here.
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