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post #40041 of 43551 (permalink) Old 02-26-2019, 10:27 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted by The Sandman View Post
Not enough info.

Which memory kit are you running? CPU clock? Stress tests you've passed? Current settings? Temps etc.
Much easier to help if you post your rig sig so we all know what you're running, just saying
I posted a snip below to show test with ness info.

I was always able to run 3466 tight timings (14-13-13) very stable (8 hrs 1500% HCI, 2 hrs Y-Cruncher, 8 hrs P95, 90% mem on IBT AVX) on my 1800x @ 3950MHz since release up to Bios 3502 iirc when I jumped on the 2700x.
I run Flare-X (B-Die) and depending which kit you have could make all the difference as far as what/how to advise.



It's been stated many times Dram Vboot Voltage should match Dram Voltage and I've never heard anything different, curious where you got this.
Are there 1800x and flarx bios settings?

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post #40042 of 43551 (permalink) Old 02-26-2019, 08:25 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by Fanu View Post
its in my signature

I run gskill 2x8gb 3200CL14 bdie kit on C6E
latest bios, PE level 2, AI oc set at auto, CPU -0.1V offset (all core boost up to 4.2GHz, single core 4.35GHz)

current timings: 14-14-14-14-28 1T (gear down disabled), 1.39V

I've tried everything from fast to safe settings (in ryzen calc) between 3333-3566MHz (with voltages up to 1.45V) and nothing is stable for me past 3333MHz - sure, I can pass benchmarks (cinebench, superposition, prime95, etc) without issues but games will crash after several minutes of playing (total war, witcher 3, RE2, etc) and I will get hitches in windows (firefox will not open tabs, programs will glitch out, etc)
you got very lucky with your CPU since you can hit 3466 with those very low timings
Bare in mind 14-13-13 was with earlier UEFI (3502) and on a 1800x, really not that uncommon back than. Agesa was changing rapidly and memory got harder to stabilize with later UEFI's for me at least. Current everyday driver is 3466 14-15-14-28-42-277 on my 2700x but CPU is clocked much higher. I run PE3 with auto Vcore/CPU LLC with constant no dropping 4.2GHz all core and 3450MHz single/multi core @ 1.241v average fully loaded SV12.


Have you played with VDDP and CLDO VDDP?
Have a look below at Bios text file PE33466122418 if interested on how I set mine up. Not saying it'll work for you but may give you an idea if you haven't played there yet.

Quote: Originally Posted by Dave001 View Post
It's been mentioned in this thread a couple of times, also seen it mentioned on other forums.

With Dram Vboot Voltage set to 1.4v, same as Dram Voltage, my system (CH6E 6401 + 2700 @ 4ghz) will restart 3 times before the bios posts from a cold (PSU powered off) start, with Dram Vboot Voltage set to Auto, it starts straight away.
I remembered just after posting this (sorry it was late) that this may have helped a few, but afaik it's not the norm.

Interesting, I've haven't had this issue except with earlier UEFI from waaay back. Thank you for sharing!


Quote: Originally Posted by mito1172 View Post
Are there 1800x and flarx bios settings?
You know there is

As mentioned above you'll need to keep in mind this was on UEFI 3502. Agesa has changed since this period.
I was not having the best success after 3502 maintaining the same stability at 14-13-13. Latency is currently better at 14-15-14 and seems to be a lot less of a PITA on the 2700x.


Look below at 39508hrhci...
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If you're looking to OC them Flair-X this is what I'm running at 3466MHz c14. (2700x though)

HCI Memtest 7 hr stable among others.
Bios text file below if interested.
Hi Sandman,

Running identical specs to you (motherboard, RAM, CPU) and your bios settings are spot on and my PC is running like a dream. Only difference is running BCLK 101 for an effective ram speed of 3433 as I seem to be able to get bit more out CPU which is all cores 4165 and single 4395 whilst gaming anyway, I also needed to tweak the offset voltage a little. I noticed you were running Auto for offset, any advantages to this?
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If i use PE3 my all core speeds are lower then with PE2 any idea whats causing this ?

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Quote: Originally Posted by dual109 View Post
Hi Sandman,

Running identical specs to you (motherboard, RAM, CPU) and your bios settings are spot on and my PC is running like a dream. Only difference is running BCLK 101 for an effective ram speed of 3433 as I seem to be able to get bit more out CPU which is all cores 4165 and single 4395 whilst gaming anyway, I also needed to tweak the offset voltage a little. I noticed you were running Auto for offset, any advantages to this?

Auto keeps Vcore so much lower. I couldn't come close with any manual Vcore applied.
Not positive on this point but wonder if this also the reason my clock speed does not drop under load, stays very constant.

I too play with a 102 Bclk, makes these chips sing (check below)


Quote: Originally Posted by usoldier View Post
If i use PE3 my all core speeds are lower then with PE2 any idea whats causing this ?
If everything is setup proper the only variance that comes to mind should be the temps being read during post, this is how/when PE works, The better the cooling solution, the higher the freqs.
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Quote: Originally Posted by The Sandman View Post
Bare in mind 14-13-13 was with earlier UEFI (3502) and on a 1800x, really not that uncommon back than. Agesa was changing rapidly and memory got harder to stabilize with later UEFI's for me at least. Current everyday driver is 3466 14-15-14-28-42-277 on my 2700x but CPU is clocked much higher. I run PE3 with auto Vcore/CPU LLC with constant no dropping 4.2GHz all core and 3450MHz single/multi core @ 1.241v average fully loaded SV12.


Have you played with VDDP and CLDO VDDP?
Have a look below at Bios text file PE33466122418 if interested on how I set mine up. Not saying it'll work for you but may give you an idea if you haven't played there yet.


I remembered just after posting this (sorry it was late) that this may have helped a few, but afaik it's not the norm.

Interesting, I've haven't had this issue except with earlier UEFI from waaay back. Thank you for sharing!



You know there is

As mentioned above you'll need to keep in mind this was on UEFI 3502. Agesa has changed since this period.
I was not having the best success after 3502 maintaining the same stability at 14-13-13. Latency is currently better at 14-15-14 and seems to be a lot less of a PITA on the 2700x.


Look below at 39508hrhci...
If your processor is 2700x it will not fit me. thanks

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If your processor is 2700x it will not fit me. thanks

Just making sure you understand,

The Bios text file above (39508hrhci) is from my 1800x.
The one labeled PE3..... is from my 2700x.

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If your processor is 2700x it will not fit me. thanks
Then I may have some settings for you to try

I know its not comprehensive stability testing, but I'm pretty tired, and life has been really complex lately.

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Have included 3533 settings as well.

If these don't work, you might need to play with CLDO_VDDP, vCore & vSoC
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Not 24/7 setup, just for bencing but it's stable.
Ps.: I love this board !
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