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post #40071 of 41995 (permalink) Old 03-11-2019, 12:02 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted by Ironcobra View Post
Okay Im with ya now, since I only have one graphics card at the top slot Im thinking its something else going on or bug/defective mobo. I have had it at 16x before. Im going to pull the cpu today and check the pins.
I also have a 1080Ti and it runs at PCIe 3.0 x8 in the first PCIE 3.0 slot - it runs at 8x instead of 16x because I have both m.2 slots populated (one with SATA m.2 SSD, and the other with NVME m.2 ssd)

GPU would work at 16x if I removed that NVME m.2 SSD in m.2_2 slot

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post #40072 of 41995 (permalink) Old 03-12-2019, 08:00 AM
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Hi everyone.
Have an ROG Crosshair VI with 6401 Bios, Ryzen 2700x.
Patriot Viper PVR416G360C6K work only with 3200 16-18-18-36
If choose DOCP 3600 - bsod, i tried run it on 3200-3600 using dram calc but it doesnt help, random crashes.

Any suggestions why it cant run more than 3200?
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Quote: Originally Posted by ocburn View Post
Hi everyone.
Have an ROG Crosshair VI with 6401 Bios, Ryzen 2700x.
Patriot Viper PVR416G360C6K work only with 3200 16-18-18-36
If choose DOCP 3600 - bsod, i tried run it on 3200-3600 using dram calc but it doesnt help, random crashes.

Any suggestions why it cant run more than 3200?
Read this thread:

https://www.overclock.net/forum/13-a...-dram-am4.html

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Quote: Originally Posted by ocburn View Post
Hi everyone.
Have an ROG Crosshair VI with 6401 Bios, Ryzen 2700x.
Patriot Viper PVR416G360C6K work only with 3200 16-18-18-36
If choose DOCP 3600 - bsod, i tried run it on 3200-3600 using dram calc but it doesnt help, random crashes.

Any suggestions why it cant run more than 3200?

Not enough info...
What are your current settings? A Bios text file would help a lot. This will tell us where you're at.


What settings have you tried so far? Any testing, if so post a SS showing HWinfo while test is running etc.

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post #40075 of 41995 (permalink) Old 03-15-2019, 03:35 AM
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Looks like Asus released a new BIOS for the VII Hero with AGESA 0070. Maybe it'll be soon released a new version for the VI Hero as well?

Version 2008 2019/03/14

ROG CROSSHAIR VII HERO BIOS 2008
Update AGESA 0070 for the upcoming processors and improve CPU compatibility.
ASUS strongly recommends installing AMD chipset driver 18.50.16 or later before updating BIOS.
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Quote: Originally Posted by Plissken View Post
Looks like Asus released a new BIOS for the VII Hero with AGESA 0070. Maybe it'll be soon released a new version for the VI Hero as well?

Version 2008 2019/03/14

ROG CROSSHAIR VII HERO BIOS 2008
Update AGESA 0070 for the upcoming processors and improve CPU compatibility.
ASUS strongly recommends installing AMD chipset driver 18.50.16 or later before updating BIOS.
It's trouble in Asus x370 and x470 pro that I know of, PBO is totally screwed up and doesn't work. Also some instability with everything at default.

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Quote: Originally Posted by Plissken View Post
Looks like Asus released a new BIOS for the VII Hero with AGESA 0070. Maybe it'll be soon released a new version for the VI Hero as well?

Version 2008 2019/03/14

ROG CROSSHAIR VII HERO BIOS 2008
Update AGESA 0070 for the upcoming processors and improve CPU compatibility.
ASUS strongly recommends installing AMD chipset driver 18.50.16 or later before updating BIOS.
Quote: Originally Posted by MishelLngelo View Post
It's trouble in Asus x370 and x470 pro that I know of, PBO is totally screwed up and doesn't work. Also some instability with everything at default.
Also new bios for VI Hero under the sector Win 7 32 bit. For now there are no difficulties, the only thing I noticed is degradation in result in Cinebench R20 from 3878 to 2834. And I installed the drivers that were recommended by AMD. Cinebench R15 all normal.

Edit: add AIDA64 Benchmark

Last edit: I found what caused performance degradation "Asus GPU Tweak 2" Cinebench R20 now back to 3622 Ignore the difference in numbers included some additional programs that use CPU.
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Looking for help guys. Really desperate here and have no clue anymore. I lost more then 4 weeks fiddling with this Ryzen 1800x since to get it stable and under control. Seems I have the worst 1800x chip on planet here and would love to get a hammer crushing this chip...
Even bought a new case and replaced my 20y old CS 601 case to help with temps...
Really not trying records clocks here. NO Ram overclocking and just a multiplier of 39 what I want to archive.


I can get it stable but temperatures are out of space at 88° or have it around 75° but freezing or not passing stability test below an hour benching. Testing mainly with AIDA stability test first (cpu/fpu).


System:
AMD Ryzen 7 1800X, 3900 MHz (39 x 100)
Asus ROG Crosshair VI Hero Wi-Fi AC (bios 6401)
Crucial BLS16G4D30BESB.16FD 64GB Kit (20-18-18-38 @ 1501 MHz) DOCCT profil
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Fans: Scythe Mine 2 (tried Noctua A14/bequiet pure wings)
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Benches:
AIDA stabilty
OCCT
VRAY Bench


What I tried:
- all on default optimized = stable for >8 hours
- used 6 working OC profils from here and the net with same CPU and board including Pstate ones = crashes/freezes

- all Auto - 39x Multi = stable but 88° after hours
- Vcore offset +0.025/LL3/DRAM 1.35/SOC auto = shuts off above 90° after hours
- GSAP and Memtest passed days memory testing
- replaced the cooling paste - helped some degree
- last setting x39/VCore 1.4/LL1/rest voltage auto/DOCC profile


There is no room here to mention which constellations I already tried. It crashes/freezes at around 75° degree. All temps are alright. I seem to miss something. Meanwhile asking myself if its related with windows here..


I'm coming from Intel the past decade where you set and forget. Overclocking was task for max a day including stability benchmarks. This Ryzen seems ridicules unreliable. At least for me.

This machine is mainly intended for renderings big scenes mostly over night (>5 hours render time) where every performance percentage counts. Difference stock to x39 was about an hour saved in render time. This 1800x should work until summer where the new Ryzen arrive then I hammer into trash.



Anyone got an idea what I could try here?
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There's a new bios released


https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/RO...Desk_Download/

CROSSHAIR VI HERO BIOS 6808
Update AGESA 0070 for the upcoming processors and improve CPU compatibility.
ASUS strongly recommends installing AMD chipset driver 18.50.16 or later before updating BIOS.


I've installed and they've tweaked a few settings. There are a lot more options in AMD CBS too, including Bank Group Swap alt setting!



So far so good, just don't try import old setting profiles as it causes the system to be unbootable till you've cleared CMOS, probably due to the tweaks mentioned above.


Enjoy!

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Quote: Originally Posted by Plissken View Post
Looks like Asus released a new BIOS for the VII Hero with AGESA 0070. Maybe it'll be soon released a new version for the VI Hero as well?

Version 2008 2019/03/14

ROG CROSSHAIR VII HERO BIOS 2008
Update AGESA 0070 for the upcoming processors and improve CPU compatibility.
ASUS strongly recommends installing AMD chipset driver 18.50.16 or later before updating BIOS.
6808 is also out for the C6H: https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/RO...HelpDesk_BIOS/

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