ROG Crosshair VI overclocking thread - Page 4009 - Overclock.net - An Overclocking Community

Forum Jump: 

ROG Crosshair VI overclocking thread

Reply
 
Thread Tools
post #40081 of 40422 (permalink) Old 03-15-2019, 07:55 AM
New to Overclock.net
 
GraveNoX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 93
Rep: 2 (Unique: 2)
Quote: Originally Posted by Mike8040 View Post
Looking for help guys. Really desperate here and have no clue anymore. I lost more then 4 weeks fiddling with this Ryzen 1800x since to get it stable and under control. Seems I have the worst 1800x chip on planet here and would love to get a hammer crushing this chip...

What I tried:
- all on default optimized = stable for >8 hours
- used 6 working OC profils from here and the net with same CPU and board including Pstate ones = crashes/freezes

- all Auto - 39x Multi = stable but 88° after hours
- Vcore offset +0.025/LL3/DRAM 1.35/SOC auto = shuts off above 90° after hours
- GSAP and Memtest passed days memory testing
- replaced the cooling paste - helped some degree
- last setting x39/VCore 1.4/LL1/rest voltage auto/DOCC profile
Not even close, I got the worst 1700x chip on the planet, for 2 years I run it at 3.9Ghz at 1.4375 LLC3 (1.406-1.412v on load). Now I run it at 1.4v LLC3 at 3.85Ghz, summer is coming and 1.4375 is too much. For cooling I don't have nothing fancy, a thermalright true spirit 140 power with a ty-143 fan and the ramp up noise is annoying.

F4-3200C15D-16GTZKW, b-die
Asus C6H Bios 6401, 1700x at 3.9 all cores.

16-16-16-16-36-52-6-8-36-4-12-24-A-3-3-352-A-A-16-12-7-3-1-7-7-1-5-5-8 53.3ohm 1T GDM off Power mode off rttnom: rzq/7 rttwr: dynamic odt off rttpark: rzq/5 Mem 0 0 0 20ohm 20ohm 20ohm 20ohm dram voltage: 1.43v dram vboot voltage: 1.43v, vsoc: 1.13125, pll: 1.8v, vpp_mem 2.50000, vddp voltage: 0.855, vddp standby voltage: 0.855, cld0_vddp: 700, c-state enabled: enabled, l1 stream enable, l2 stream enable, memory interleaving: channel, memory interleaving size: 2KB, channel interleaving hash: enabled, dram r1: 0, dram r2: 0, dram r3: 0, dram r4: 0, opcache: enabled, super i/o clock skew: disabled, memory clear: disabled

Most instability comes from DRAM, you need to tweak ALOT, don't use XMP settings even if they are "Ryzen compatible", not even AMD knows what settings are right for a specific chip or sillicon.
Also instability is caused by temperature, Zen doesn't work the same at 65C and at 75C. Even if you are stable at 75C benching, maybe it will crash at 65C when doing nothing.

Last edited by GraveNoX; 03-16-2019 at 04:47 AM.
GraveNoX is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #40082 of 40422 (permalink) Old 03-15-2019, 10:39 AM
New to Overclock.net
 
Ryoz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 58
Rep: 3 (Unique: 3)
new bios is available, but i am not going to flash it now.

probably will wait until zen 2 come out, then only flash it and get a new chip for upgrading.
Ryoz is offline  
post #40083 of 40422 (permalink) Old 03-15-2019, 11:31 AM
French nerd
 
Lermite's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: France
Posts: 901
Rep: 43 (Unique: 31)
About this new bios 6808:

"ASUS strongly recommends installing AMD chipset driver 18.50.16 or later before updating BIOS."

But AMD's most recent version of the X370 chipset driver is 18.10.1810: https://www.amd.com/fr/support/chips...ocket-am4/x370

Where is the bug?
Lermite is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #40084 of 40422 (permalink) Old 03-15-2019, 11:52 AM
New to Overclock.net
 
LicSqualo's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Abruzzo, Italy
Posts: 257
Rep: 8 (Unique: 7)
New bios installed, 6808.
Loaded the old profiles from my usb pendrive without problem.
happy for the new update.
Actually run my 1700 at 4040 MHz with ram at 3568 MHz with the 6301 profile.
No problem also for NVME drives (970 EVO + 950 PRO) or SSD drives.

A good work
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	cachemem 4040(101) 1.406v @3568c14 x1.46v bios6808 llc3 1.png
Views:	11
Size:	91.6 KB
ID:	259392  


Ryzen 1700 - 4,0 Ghz @1,31 (IBT-avx load) + ram @3466 14-13-13-13-22-36-1t
Zen
(20 items)
CPU
Ryzen 7 1700 @4.1+ Ghz
Motherboard
ASUS Crosshair VI Hero
GPU
MSI VEGA 64 LC
RAM
G.Skill Trident Z RGB 3600c16 2x8 GB @3500 c13
Hard Drive
Samsung 950 Pro 256 GB
Hard Drive
Samsung 850 Pro 256 GB
Hard Drive
Samsung 850 Evo 512 GB
Hard Drive
WD Caviar Black 500 Gb
Hard Drive
WD Caviar Black 1TB
Hard Drive
WD RED 2 TB
Power Supply
Corsair Hx1000i
Cooling
Alphacool 480 UT60 with Eisblock XPX
Case
NOX Hummer
Operating System
WIN 10 x64 RS3
Monitor
ASUS PB278
Monitor
ASUS MG278Q Freesync
Keyboard
Coolermaster MECH
Mouse
Logitech G502
Mouse
Logitech
Audio
Integrated Motherboard
▲ hide details ▲
LicSqualo is offline  
post #40085 of 40422 (permalink) Old 03-15-2019, 01:10 PM
RadeonMOD Author
 
Ne01 OnnA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: HolyWater Village
Posts: 581
Rep: 19 (Unique: 13)
Quote: Originally Posted by Sideways2k View Post
There's a new bios released


https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/RO...Desk_Download/

CROSSHAIR VI HERO BIOS 6808
Update AGESA 0070 for the upcoming processors and improve CPU compatibility.
ASUS strongly recommends installing AMD chipset driver 18.50.16 or later before updating BIOS.


I've installed and they've tweaked a few settings. There are a lot more options in AMD CBS too, including Bank Group Swap alt setting!



So far so good, just don't try import old setting profiles as it causes the system to be unbootable till you've cleared CMOS, probably due to the tweaks mentioned above.


Enjoy!
Did You test it in terms of better DRAM OC?
Im on 6401 and it's the first BIOS that can 3500MHz CL14 1T GD

IMO the new one can do even better....

Fat Ne01 ZEN RiG
(24 items)
CPU
ryZEN 1700 k17
Motherboard
ASUS ROG Crosshair VI Hero X370
GPU
Radeon Vega 64 XTX LiquiD Limited Edition 1800/1200 1.137v
RAM
HyperX Predator 4x8GB DDR4-4133 CL19-21-21-41
Hard Drive
Samsung 850 Evo
Hard Drive
Samsung 850 Pro
Hard Drive
Seagate New Baracuda 128MB
Hard Drive
Samsung 960Pro M.2 PCIe
Optical Drive
LiteOn DVD Burner
Power Supply
Seasonic/XFX 780tW Black Ed. Platinum
Cooling
Cooler Master AiO WC Nepton 280L with Cold-Water MOD + Side Fan (Copper Solid™ Base & Radiator with HRSI™ )
Case
BIG Tower Corsair 750D SilentO MoD, Brushed Aluminium, 5 fans/dust free
Operating System
Win_X PRO x64 Custom Build
Monitor
iiyama ProLite XUB2792QSU-B1 1440p 74Hz 10Bit with FreeSync™
Keyboard
Razer DeathStalker LED, 1000Hz Ultra Pooling 0.01ms Pro Gamer ED
Mouse
ROCCAT Nyth Modular MMO 1000Hz Ultra Pooling 0.01ms 12000 CPI XtreME Gamer ED
Mousepad
ROCCAT Taito – Shiny Black Medium w/Silver Nano Fibre Matrix surface
Audio
Audio-Technica ATH-AD1000X w/ATMOs™
Audio
SB-Zx Gamer ED, PCIe Gold Plated with Nichicon “Fine Gold” Japan-Plati Capacitors Mod (Hardware DTS™ & DolbyDigital™ )
Audio
Custom PyramiD™ 5.1 Woofer & Amplituner >300W + SB-Zx
Audio
Magnat Vector 2 - POW: 80W / 120W
Audio
Magnat Monitor Supreme 102 - POW: 60W / 120W
Audio
Jamo Pj 6000b - POW: 70W / 100W
Audio
Cables: Ultra Hi EFI PlaTinuum (B&R Pure Copper CU w/Silver 3.5mm)
▲ hide details ▲
Ne01 OnnA is offline  
post #40086 of 40422 (permalink) Old 03-15-2019, 04:44 PM
New to Overclock.net
 
residentour's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Posts: 21
Rep: 2 (Unique: 2)
Quote: Originally Posted by Lermite View Post
About this new bios 6808:

"ASUS strongly recommends installing AMD chipset driver 18.50.16 or later before updating BIOS."

But AMD's most recent version of the X370 chipset driver is 18.10.1810: https://www.amd.com/fr/support/chips...ocket-am4/x370

Where is the bug?
Here : https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/m...L_RS5_DCHU.zip
residentour is offline  
post #40087 of 40422 (permalink) Old 03-15-2019, 05:20 PM
French nerd
 
Lermite's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: France
Posts: 901
Rep: 43 (Unique: 31)
Quote: Originally Posted by residentour View Post
Thanks!

But even with this chipset driver, the bios 6808 keeps worsening my caches L2 and L2 speeds in regards of the 6401's
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Bench_6401_3488.png
Views:	11
Size:	92.3 KB
ID:	259446  

Click image for larger version

Name:	Bench_6808_3488.png
Views:	10
Size:	92.2 KB
ID:	259448  

Click image for larger version

Name:	Bench_6808_3488_annote.png
Views:	10
Size:	72.9 KB
ID:	259452  

Lermite is offline  
post #40088 of 40422 (permalink) Old 03-15-2019, 05:21 PM
rms
New to Overclock.net
 
rms's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 20
Rep: 2 (Unique: 2)
Quote: Originally Posted by Lermite View Post
About this new bios 6808:

"ASUS strongly recommends installing AMD chipset driver 18.50.16 or later before updating BIOS."

But AMD's most recent version of the X370 chipset driver is 18.10.1810: https://www.amd.com/fr/support/chips...ocket-am4/x370

Where is the bug?
Also, "Version 18.40.02" is latest on the Asus d/l site. Hope someone can clear up this mess!!!
rms is offline  
post #40089 of 40422 (permalink) Old 03-15-2019, 05:48 PM
New to Overclock.net
 
Join Date: Jul 2018
Posts: 1
Rep: 0
when this bios will be available for Crossair VI Extreme ?
roco_smith is offline  
post #40090 of 40422 (permalink) Old 03-15-2019, 05:49 PM
rms
New to Overclock.net
 
rms's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 20
Rep: 2 (Unique: 2)
Quote: Originally Posted by residentour View Post
Ok, so the Asus USA site hasn't been updated yet, that makes sense. Still don't understand the AMD version # mismatch tho.
rms is offline  
Reply

Tags
Bios5 , profiles to usb

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Overclock.net - An Overclocking Community forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
If you do not want to register, fill this field only and the name will be used as user name for your post.
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 5 (2 members and 3 guests)
Sentinela , wingman99
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page


Forum Jump: 

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off