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post #40541 of 40619 (permalink) Old 05-15-2019, 10:24 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted by Dave001 View Post

You might find that Zen 2 will work perfectly fine with your ram and the latest BIOS, it's not uncommon for a BIOS to loose a little backwards compatibility, so stick with 6401 until Zen 2 is released, and try 7002 again then.


Both of you might be interested to know, that I'm still attempting to get Asus, to fix the VDDP settings in the BIOS for the Extreme, my case has been handed on to the ASUS Global Technical Support Department, and they sent me another email asking for more info today, so it looks like I might actually be getting somewhere. Perhaps being able to change VDDP voltage on the extreme, might help with some of the RAM stability problems.
Its more that a little backward compatibility, there seems to be a whole new boot sequence with added steps (code checks) in 6903 / 7002. In 7002 I had a softbrick after I flashed within 6401 using EZ flash and got q code F2>F9 then reboot to E1 which rendered my MB unable to post at all. I had to rollback using USB BIOS flashback to unbrick. F2 > F9 have never caused a problem in previous BIOS so they must be new as I had not noticed them as I watch my POST code LED religiously and can notice new boot sequences that have been added since 6401. there is more to this than just a shift in memory compatibility and I don't mind admitting beyond my understanding at present. Q code 8 points to memory but other than that no more info as it is a new step in the post sequence.

This might end up an expensive experience forcing my hand to by 32gb of new ram and the possibility of a new MB not from Asus for Zen 2

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So, set up the following:

SOC 1.1v
VCORE 1.425v (offset)
LLC5 (keeps the voltage still)
PLL 1.85v

Passed 3 hours OCCT Large Data Set

If i decrease ram timmings, will i need more VCORE? Will it need more SOC? Or can i keep the same settings, and bring timmings down?

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Quote: Originally Posted by Sentinela View Post
So, set up the following:

SOC 1.1v
VCORE 1.425v (offset)
LLC5 (keeps the voltage still)
PLL 1.85v

Passed 3 hours OCCT Large Data Set

If i decrease ram timmings, will i need more VCORE? Will it need more SOC? Or can i keep the same settings, and bring timmings down?
That amount of LLC is a sure way to kill your chip. I can tell you now that 4ghz on 1st gen isn't worth the voltage. Elmor and Raja have stated in this thread many times that anything over LLC2 has risk



I recently picked up a 2700X for next to nothing and was wondering what sort of settings people use in terms of PBO. Unsure what sort of voltages when using PBO is safe. Currently using LVL2 PE with -0.10v offset.

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That amount of LLC is a sure way to kill your chip. I can tell you now that 4ghz on 1st gen isn't worth the voltage. Elmor and Raja have stated in this thread many times that anything over LLC2 has risk



I recently picked up a 2700X for next to nothing and was wondering what sort of settings people use in terms of PBO. Unsure what sort of voltages when using PBO is safe. Currently using LVL2 PE with -0.10v offset.
Should I up the offset and set LLC4?

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Quote: Originally Posted by Sentinela View Post
Should I up the offset and set LLC4?
I would if you plan to keep your chip. If you want to upgrade in the next few months I'd imagine it would be ok. It's the overshoot that can do damage and software doesn't detect it

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Thank all you guys for the reply. So, yesterday i back up my clock to 3.925 mhz, set at offset and llc4 getting 1.362v. Im using PLL 1.85v, SOC at 1.1, and LLC4 for both SOC and VCORE. Using 3200mhz for ram, default XMP (16-18-18-18-38). Run OCCT for 10 hours on Large Data Set, stable (before it would crash very fast). Replaced my thermal compound from Deepcool Z5 to Artic Silver 5. To sustain 4.0ghz i need 1.425v. To get there, i can use LLC5, but im afraid that would result in overshots. 4ghz is where i feel it should be, its a freaking 1800x and a Crosshair VI Extreme...really bothers me not getting there.

I feel ya. I can't even count how many hours/months I spent with my 1800x attempting to go from 3925MHz with 3466MHz 14-13-13 to 4.0GHz.
Stable as a rock at these settings but anything higher just wasn't happening. And this was on my current cooling solution as well (listed in rig sig).
My average temps ran 59c to 61c under load with IBT AVX, P95 etc. I wrote it off as simply bad luck in the silicon lottery this round. In short try to remember not all gen 1 chips can do 4.0GHz and maintain stability.

@Sideways2k PE3/101.8 bclk = 4275 all core and 4428 multi/single core text file below if interested
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I feel ya. I can't even count how many hours/months I spent with my 1800x attempting to go from 3925MHz with 3466MHz 14-13-13 to 4.0GHz.
Stable as a rock at these settings but anything higher just wasn't happening. And this was on my current cooling solution as well (listed in rig sig).
My average temps ran 59c to 61c under load with IBT AVX, P95 etc. I wrote it off as simply bad luck in the silicon lottery this round. In short try to remember not all gen 1 chips can do 4.0GHz and maintain stability.

@Sideways2k PE3/101.8 bclk = 4275 all core and 4428 multi/single core text file below if interested
Thanks for sharing! I will have a play around with my settings!

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I feel ya. I can't even count how many hours/months I spent with my 1800x attempting to go from 3925MHz with 3466MHz 14-13-13 to 4.0GHz.
Stable as a rock at these settings but anything higher just wasn't happening. And this was on my current cooling solution as well (listed in rig sig).
My average temps ran 59c to 61c under load with IBT AVX, P95 etc. I wrote it off as simply bad luck in the silicon lottery this round. In short try to remember not all gen 1 chips can do 4.0GHz and maintain stability.

@Sideways2k PE3/101.8 bclk = 4275 all core and 4428 multi/single core text file below if interested
Yup, pretty much it. I'm done OCing CPU. 3.950mhz, 1.4v, still running OCCT Large Data Set (2+ hours already). If it eventually fails, will step back to 3.925mhz, as it is stable at that frequency with a reasonable low voltage. Will play with ram latter.

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I have 6903 bios and 3 TY-143 fans
1 fan into cpu_fan, 1 fan into cpu_opt and 1 fan into cha_fan2
I ran the test, set all of them to PWM, CPU reading, minimum of 600rpm, some custom settings for min/med/max temps
None of them is changing speed under windows, no matter the temperature, I let cinebench run for 10 seconds, 82C and no fan is changing speed
Changed cha_fan2 to read motherboard temperature so it won't getting in conflict but no difference
It ramps up without cha_fan2.

What should I do ? Do I need to install Asus software ? Another BIOS ?
I solved the problem by using Clear CMOD button while power supply was turned off. Loaded saved profile (the profile doesn't get lost after clear CMOS) and now the fans are ramping up. It seems when changing fans configuration, a reset is needed.
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new bios

new bios (7002): https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/m...-ASUS-7002.zip

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