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post #42741 of 43098 (permalink) Old 08-22-2019, 07:02 PM
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Im looking for some advice with my new system and RAM OC. I got a 3700X and 2x8GB Crucial Ballistix 3000Mhz (E-Dies). I kept my Asus X370 Crosshair VI and everything works fine. I started to OC my RAM and tighten up the timings but it feels like my latency is to high considering the speed/timings I am running right now. I get 74ns in Aida64 and see other people get like mid 60s with similar settings. On my previous 1700X with 3000mhz Crosshair RAM (Samsung E-Die) I even achieved lower latency.

Any ideas if there is an issue here or how to improve?
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My 3900X has arrived yesterday - finally. I have done some quick benchmarks and there is one thing that worries me - temperature. I am using NH-D15 and idle temp range I am getting is 41-61, stressing (cinebench r20) the CPU results in 88 degrees.

Is it normal or have I applied thermal paste incorrectly? I have spread it evenly on the CPU but I am not sure if I used enough of it or too much. Any tips?

EDIT. The CPU is on stock settings. I didn’t have time to tinker with it yet.

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My 3900X has arrived yesterday - finally. I have done some quick benchmarks and there is one thing that worries me - temperature. I am using NH-D15 and idle temp range I am getting is 41-61, stressing (cinebench r20) the CPU results in 88 degrees.

Is it normal or have I applied thermal paste incorrectly? I have spread it evenly on the CPU but I am not sure if I used enough of it or too much. Any tips?

EDIT. The CPU is on stock settings. I didn’t have time to tinker with it yet.

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My 3600X is the same, and that is with 360 AIO. Reapplied thermal paste to make sure. I'd say it's very much normal.

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post #42744 of 43098 (permalink) Old 08-22-2019, 11:07 PM
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7306 bios, anyone have all the fans stop spinning? was getting 5fps in game, and saw my temp was 95....
let me know if this helps:
https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthrea...ken#post781768
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post #42745 of 43098 (permalink) Old 08-22-2019, 11:19 PM
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Is this a new AGESA or still AB. If 7301 is stable for me I suppose there is not much new under the sun in this bios like better boost speeds or better mem stability

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Is this a new AGESA or still AB. If 7301 is stable for me I suppose there is not much new under the sun in this bios like better boost speeds or better mem stability
every new bios i get asked the boost question all over again, i have not tested a newer version of AGESA that changes the current state of 1003 boost, not even 1004. if i do know of changes, i will specifically state this. They were being too aggressive with the boost previously, the current boost behavior is more in line with their confidence in long term reliability and i have not heard of any changes to this stance, tho i have heard of a 'more customizable' version in the future.
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Are you aware of the odd power cycle on restart from Windows? Never happened in 7201 with AGESA 1.0.0.2 but has with every BIOS since (7302, 7304, 7401).
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My 3600X is the same, and that is with 360 AIO. Reapplied thermal paste to make sure. I'd say it's very much normal.


I have tried to find information about that in the other sources and people are normally getting 73 degrees during load with NH-D15. That is why I have asked here. I have a really decent airflow in my PC case I believe - 3 fans intake front, 4 fans blowing the air out - 3 top and 1 in the rear. I will probably leave it like that for now but I do not like it - fans are loud almost all the time :/


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every new bios i get asked the boost question all over again, i have not tested a newer version of AGESA that changes the current state of 1003 boost, not even 1004. if i do know of changes, i will specifically state this. They were being too aggressive with the boost previously, the current boost behavior is more in line with their confidence in long term reliability and I have not heard of any changes to this stance, tho i have heard of a 'more customizable' version in the future.

Why can I with the same CPU swap into a different board get way better boosts? I have tested my CPU in a b450 board and it boosted beyond 4.2Ghz. Yet in the Crosshair VI it barely hits 4.1Ghz. Both boards on ABB. This implies it is a mobo issue mixed with AGESA problems. I feel this is being ignored

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@shamino1978 thanks for posting here! Greatly appreciate that.

I've actually tested the boost performance and it seems all the same FOR ME in cpuz, R15 and R20 on 7201, 7401, 7306 and even 7401 with 7201 old "more aggressive smu".

The only question is the same as @Sideways2k one, as my friends 3600 is not boosting over 4100, while it's perfectly stable at 107 bclk with boost enabled through Ryzen Master.
Ive seen already 3 cpus with the same problems:
My friends one - 3600 not boosting over 4.1Ghz at stock, bios 7306-7401 C6H
Another friend with B450-A Pro - cpu does not boost over 4.1Ghz either
@Sideways2k cpu is not boosting over 4.1Ghz with C6H, whole it works as expected with another B450 board.

Hwinfo also states that 4.1Ghz is the boost limit for 3600 cpus at 80C.

I think there's some kind of complex problem with exact cpu samples and bios versions/motherboards, as the same cpu/mb combo can work as expected / not as expected depending just on exact cpu sample and motherboard?
This problem also seems to not only affect Asus boards, so it's AMDs fault

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